So is Capt Shaw the new, reigning biggest a##hole in Trek?
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Yeah, I noticed that. But right now, not sure if it's disrespect, indifference (least likely, imo, guy doesn't seem like the type to vacate his own bridge lightly), or a PTSD avoidance reaction.
Nope. It makes him an asshole.
If you say so, but that seems awfully insecure and petty of a man who's supposed to be leading the ship. How fragile must one be to feel uncomfortable over one's name? Hardly anyone worth respecting.
Bottom line, if you don't respect the name, you don't respect the person. He may be the captain, but it doesn't make him any less of an asshole, and that is the topic of discussion.
I will say this to anyone in the real world to-- if a person can't accept another person's name or identity of choice, if they make it all about themself, their beliefs and perspectives like a pretentious, insecure little cry baby, then that person is an asshole, who will never command respect and will never deserve respect and will never be respected.
It's not about you. It never was and it never will be. It's about simple respect.
Everything else is arrogant self-righteousness and deserves to be called out as such.
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Seven and Riker are going to be courtmartialed and PIcard is going to face consequences from the courts which will up end his life style.
They stole a star ship.
When has that ever turned out well for someone?
Oh god.
The next Picard show is going to be about Picard in prison.
Bald is the new Black.
Every guest star is some one we know that did something criminal and then they are JLP's room mate for 4 episodes, unless there is a revolving door of Wardens at his prison?
New Zealand Penal Colonies are for blond pretty boys with admiral daddies.
They stole a star ship.
When has that ever turned out well for someone?
Oh god.
The next Picard show is going to be about Picard in prison.
Bald is the new Black.
Every guest star is some one we know that did something criminal and then they are JLP's room mate for 4 episodes, unless there is a revolving door of Wardens at his prison?
New Zealand Penal Colonies are for blond pretty boys with admiral daddies.
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It's not just the hiding. It's how he treated Seven of Nine as he was finding out that Riker and Picard had stolen a shuttlecraft. His behavior was unprofessional.
From what is being said, Shaw seems to be sticking around for awhile, so we'll find out together how mich of an ass he is.
Shaw could have used the remote control to bring an empty shuttle back, and then gone home. Which might be considered murder?
Or is Shaw just going to park there for a week until Picard returns?
No, no, no.Shaw's preference outweighs hers. Simple as that.
Llike I said...he's the captain. That gives HIM the right.
Seven wants to have a "preferred" name that she "identifies" with? Let her get her OWN damn ship. Then she can "identify" however the hell she wants. Until then? She can keep her trap shut.
If Seven continues to have a problem with it, let her transfer off the Titan and be done with it. I'm sure there are dozens, if not hundreds, of other captains who'd love to have her onboard and don't particularly care how she "identifies". Perhaps Shaw is being a tad unreasonable in that regard...but it's his ship, he's entitled.
An actual boss today, or even a Captain of an actual ship has no right deadnaming a transgender subordinate of theirs. The same policy should also exist in Starfleet given they exist in far more enlightened times than we do. And by referring to Seven as Annika Hansen Shaw is deadnaming her. Which is wrong, rude, inappropriate and makes Shaw look like an all around horrible person.
And yes, it's still deadnaming even though Seven is not transgender. Annika Hansen is the birth name which she has since abandoned and ceased to use. Seven of Nine is her name now, and Shaw does not have the right to decide otherwise, regardless his rank or position aboard the Titan.
I hated Katherine Pulaski passionately when she was first introduced, in no small part due to her attitude about Data's name.
"One is my name. The other is not."
"One is my name. The other is not."
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Well, Seven apparently hasn't completely abandoned or "deadnamed" (or whatever the hell we're supposed to call it) the name Annika...there was that bit in S1 where we hear the Borg say "Annika still has work to do".
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That seemed like a unique situation there. I'm guessing those Ex-Bs preferred to be addressed by their birthnames, and mistakenly assumed Seven did as well. Seven, feeling guilty over the fact she had just essentially "re-assimilated" them (even if as a means to protect them from being killed) decided not to object.
I wonder if any of her crewmates on Voyager had a problem calling her Seven because of past history with the Borg. Any Wolf 359 survivors on that ship?
The same crew that got over Seska being a Cardassian, because she was hot?
Janyways original mission was to nuke Chakotays home base with tricobalt devices.
She had selected a crew that was cool with Weapons of Mass Destruction and Genocide.
They are all dead on the inside head cases.
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Well, it's not like Seska really stuck around after she was outed as a Cardie...
Although I'm sure that many of the Maquis on board (and even some who weren't Maquis) would have jumped at the chance to kill her once they did find out.
No, it wasn't.
I doubt Voyager even had ordnance like that.
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Michael Jonas, who was himself Maquis was still loyal to Seska even after she was revealed to be a Cardassian. He even fed intel to the Kazon about Voyager in order to prove his loyalty to Seska.
Voyager did have tricobalt devices. That's what they used to destroy the Caretaker's array in the very first episode.
Other than his treatment of 7, I actually got to like Shaw in my second viewing. He saw past the ruse of Picard and Riker and said not on my ship. I'm expecting him to come through as the season goes on, but is he the biggest asshole of Trek right now? No not really. Commodore Oh is probably worse, considering she brainwashed Jurati to kill Maddux and then tried to eliminate an android planet.
I do agree with his indifference though and how lack of leadership he actually showed, Much like everything else, it is still early.
I do agree with his indifference though and how lack of leadership he actually showed, Much like everything else, it is still early.
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What I find particularly interesting about the crew dynamic on the Titan is that based on the fact the entire bridge crew followed Seven's order to head to the star system even knowing it was in contradiction to Shaw's orders, Shaw clearly isn't held in high esteem by his crew.
Supposition: Seven of Nine cannot be stripped of all her Borg shite because she was assimilated as a 6 year old.
FALSE!
What we have here is Annika Hansen from the Confederate Timeline who was never assimilated as a child, possessed by the soul of the Regular Seven of Nine who was partially assimilated at the 11th hour of season 2.
She's had implants for less than a year.
Firstly, how weird that her new implants look just like her old implants.
Second she is not removing her Borg Implants as a choice, even if it looks the same superficially, it's not the same. Her Body had 40 years getting along with out implants, and now it's more body art than scaring left over after rape.
She could very well be human again and chooses not to because she is a Borg Lover.
Confederate Annika Hansen was MURDERED by Federation Seven of Nine.
Literal Dead Naming.
FALSE!
What we have here is Annika Hansen from the Confederate Timeline who was never assimilated as a child, possessed by the soul of the Regular Seven of Nine who was partially assimilated at the 11th hour of season 2.
She's had implants for less than a year.
Firstly, how weird that her new implants look just like her old implants.
Second she is not removing her Borg Implants as a choice, even if it looks the same superficially, it's not the same. Her Body had 40 years getting along with out implants, and now it's more body art than scaring left over after rape.
She could very well be human again and chooses not to because she is a Borg Lover.
Confederate Annika Hansen was MURDERED by Federation Seven of Nine.
Literal Dead Naming.
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