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So I started watching "Babylon 5" for the first time.

Watching The Gathering this late in the game might be interesting. I'm interested in seeing your thoughts.
 
and while I think B5 is very "nerd" oriented (for one, it takes itself dreadfully serious),
Really? Not a description I'd use. There's plenty of comedy. (Sure it's Joe's brand of comedy, but it's there nonetheless.)
 
Finished "The Gathering" well, it's plain to see that this was an early form of the final universe we wound up with.The Asian first officer was a bit wooden and lacked the "sass" of Ivonova, but from a dirtbags POV she was pretty to look at. I think I liked the Look of B5 alot better in this than I did in season 1, it felt like a big space station where as in season one, it felt alot smaller than it was. I think my biggest gripe was G'Kar...he was far more noble in the series than he was here, I couldn't believe this was supposed to be the same charicter. Overall the story was a decent "whodunit" in space. Man...it was like the late 80's/early 90's in space...haha...overall decent...Revised list. Oh Yeah, also, I am glad the made some changes to Delin, evey time she came on screen I heard a peter gabriel song for some reason.

In the Beginning
Thirdspace
The Gathering
River of Souls
Call to Arms
Legend of the Rangers (Distant Last)
 
The one dimensional Thugggishness of G'Kar in the pilotmovie, makes his turn around all the more surprising and interesting when he choses to rescue Catherine from the Walkers.

"No one here is exactly who they seem."

You understand that you fucked up monumentally.

There is no reason in hell you were not supposed to watch The Gathering first.

(Some argue, In The Beginning first, but they are in hell, so my statement holds true.)

The last couple days whenever I try to pull Tamlyn's character's name out of deep recall in my brain, what comes out by accident is "Trisha Takanawa".

Either I have a wire crossed or I am secretly racist.

Regardless, this is the woman who was supposed to be the psi corps sleeper that Talia eventually turned out to be, it was in the original script or a scene was cut, but it was supposed to be obvious from this episode that she was a baddie and it was only a matter of time till she spaced Jeff, and now that you know how well she lies, isn't she just a little bit sexier?

On the subject of double agents, did you notice Mr Morden in the C&C staff? :)
 
G'Kar was an intended transition. He's not that noble in season one or two either (stirring up trouble in the early episodes like "Midnight on the Firing Line" and "The War Prayer"; planning to kill the Centauri emperor before he goes and starts dying on his own.) The turning point in season three starts to occur as he experiences the Dust and Kosh and starts recruiting other Narns to the humans' cause.

On the flip side Londo starts out as someone likeable and turns on a very dark path as he gets involved with Morden.
 
One minor thing, one thing I like was the fact that one off charicters and captians of non-hero ships were not portrayed as morons...except for that guy who led the narn invasion of the centari supply lane, he seemed like kind of a moron.
 
A Narn trying to kill the Centauri Emperor is not ignoble, that's just like a Smurf killing Gargamel after he ate half the village.
 
A Narn trying to kill the Centauri Emperor is not ignoble, that's just like a Smurf killing Gargamel after he ate half the village.

Not really. After all, it was established that that individual emperor hadn't done anything bad to the Narn people. His family had in the past, but not he himself.

Jan
 
A Narn trying to kill the Centauri Emperor is not ignoble, that's just like a Smurf killing Gargamel after he ate half the village.

Not really. After all, it was established that that individual emperor hadn't done anything bad to the Narn people. His family had in the past, but not he himself.

Jan

And for all his posturing, Gargamel hasn't eaten a single Smurf, or made even one of them into gold.

I saw Goodwin on the Horizon and took a left turn back into my childhood.

The Office is a legacy, the new Emperor inherits the good with the bad and accepts as much responsibility for the last 1000 years as his sanity will allow.
 
The Office is a legacy, the new Emperor inherits the good with the bad and accepts as much responsibility for the last 1000 years as his sanity will allow.

Which is exactly why Emperor Turhan came to Babylon 5: to apologize to the Narn Regime.

Jan
 
The Office is a legacy, the new Emperor inherits the good with the bad and accepts as much responsibility for the last 1000 years as his sanity will allow.

Which is exactly why Emperor Turhan came to Babylon 5: to apologize to the Narn Regime.

Jan

Why did you just repeat what I said?

Edit.

No seriously, I was already trying to accommodate your point of view which I agree with, which I only abridged because I do go on.
 
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Another thought about the show....can everyone fly a starfury? are the extremely easy to fly? I think almost every human charicter was in one at one point? how or why would Garibaldi or Zach Allen need to know to fly one?
 
They made a big point of Sheridan of getting trained up on the new model they got form the Churchill... It took four hours.

As long as you are in space, you can't really crash into much anything.

Being allowed/rated to fly a Starfury atmospherically probably, or should require a a high grade of pilots licence, but the old ones couldn't so it doesn't matter.
 
Another thought about the show....can everyone fly a starfury? are the extremely easy to fly? I think almost every human charicter was in one at one point? how or why would Garibaldi or Zach Allen need to know to fly one?

That bothered me, once. But then Garibaldi used to be a pilot (how he met Sinclair) and I don't know about Zack, but he may have trained after B5 became independent, they weren't getting any replacement pilots from Earth.

Sinclair and Ivanova were fighter pilots that went into administrative duties and Sheridan was a former ship Captain but had fighter piloting experience.

They didn't really stick any other stars in Starfuries, but Londo was a pilot for his people, G'kar was a pilot and Delenn flew her own little flyer, I think learing to fly for these people isn't as exotic as it would be for us, though. Flying these things for them is more like being able to drive a car for us.
 
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