So far, do you think season 2 of Discovery is better than season 1?
So far, do you think season 2 of Discovery is better than season 1?
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Absolutely. I have not felt this enthusiastic about seeing a new Trek episode since the 90s. With a change in tone and with a stronger emphasis on exploration, it's really giving me that certain classic Trek vibe that I don't think really felt fresh since possibly TNG. I'm looking forward to seeing how they keep it up for the rest of the season.
Season 2 is good, but I prefer Season 1.
Subject to adjustment by the end of the season, but thus far, I feel the same.
not really. season 1 was fantastic. season 2 so far had two outstanding episodes back to back with Point of Light and Obol for Charon, but it also had New Eden which was the worst callback to 90s Trek possible. Season 1 never went as low as New Eden
Absolutely. It has the positives of season 1 without (So far) its major problems.
I like both seasons the the same. The second season simply has to be a bit different because there is no war in it any more. What does not change the fact that there is no return to the past and it is still a modern heavily serialized series. Supporters of series without a leading theme whose episodes can be watched in a random order will still be disappointed.
They are both very different, which is why I appreciate them.
Star Trek has always appealed to me because the same show can do "Doomsday Machine," "City on the Edge," and "Balance of Terror" right along side "Trouble with Tribbles, "I, Mudd" and "Piece of the Action"
I hate when Trek gets too homogeneous and every episode is basically the same tone, structure and theme. It's another contributing element to what drove the ennui of Trek in the late 90's. That, along with the ever irritating need to have a "Klingon Story," a "Ferengi Story" a "Q Story" etc every season
I liked S1 a bit more, but S2 has way more potential. S1 was based on a premise that, in theory, I hated...but it rose above that in my eyes, and I ended up loving it in spite of that bias. On the other hand, S2 is like a dream premise (kind of like Indiana Jones in space...galloping across the galaxy getting in adventures while trying to solve a larger puzzle), but thus far has not quite lived up to it.
Time will tell.
Star Trek has always appealed to me because the same show can do "Doomsday Machine," "City on the Edge," and "Balance of Terror" right along side "Trouble with Tribbles, "I, Mudd" and "Piece of the Action"
I hate when Trek gets too homogeneous and every episode is basically the same tone, structure and theme. It's another contributing element to what drove the ennui of Trek in the late 90's. That, along with the ever irritating need to have a "Klingon Story," a "Ferengi Story" a "Q Story" etc every season
I liked S1 a bit more, but S2 has way more potential. S1 was based on a premise that, in theory, I hated...but it rose above that in my eyes, and I ended up loving it in spite of that bias. On the other hand, S2 is like a dream premise (kind of like Indiana Jones in space...galloping across the galaxy getting in adventures while trying to solve a larger puzzle), but thus far has not quite lived up to it.
Time will tell.
Based on what little we've seen so far, the writers seem much more adept at the semi-episodic format than they were at sustaining season 1's more serialized approach. Last season we raced from shocking twist to shocking twist, intercut with absolute filler like the Pahvo episode and L'Rell standing around in her cell. The show made no time for Stamets to grieve Culber's death, but the writers found time for Tilly to get high with Clint Howard and for Eeevil Georgiou to have a completely inconsequential three way. That boggles me, though I'm willing to chalk some of the problems up to the troubled behind-the-scenes stuff.
This year has been much more satisfying so far.
This year has been much more satisfying so far.
Which simply isn't true. I enjoy episodic far more than serialized, but if it is entertaining, it is entertaining.
Agree with you wholeheartedly. Bias and "tastes," combined with Real Star Trek(tm) expectations shape reactions, no matter what people believe about their purity and unbiased nature.
It doesn't invalidate those felings, but it does lay waste to their rationalizing approach that something they don't like is objectively bad.
For me it's like night and day. Some of the problems of season one are still present, but from what we've seen so far of season two the writer's seem to have a much better grasp of the tone, pacing and theme of the show. Which is a complicated way of saying: I'm enjoying it more. Hopefully there's still room for improvement, though.
Season One was utter trash. Show was elevated by Jason Issacs' compelling performance, but then they ruined his character anti-climatically.
Season Two has 3 good episodes and 1 terrible one thus far. It's definitely off to a better start.
Season Two is also better by default because of the addition of:
The writing also seems to be taking more cues from classic Trek and Berman-era Trek.
Speck will likely make or break this season, but I'm looking forward to the episodes beyond 2.05, when Harberts and Berg are fired.
Those two are definitely responsible for some of the more divisive elements of STD S1, and deserved the axe.
Season Two has 3 good episodes and 1 terrible one thus far. It's definitely off to a better start.
Season Two is also better by default because of the addition of:
The writing also seems to be taking more cues from classic Trek and Berman-era Trek.
Speck will likely make or break this season, but I'm looking forward to the episodes beyond 2.05, when Harberts and Berg are fired.
Those two are definitely responsible for some of the more divisive elements of STD S1, and deserved the axe.
Same here. I enjoy both, and see no harm in preferring one over the other.
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The "Season 1 vs. Season 2" rhetoric has gotten almost as annoying as the "Orville vs. Discovery" debate.
People love to draw battle lines. "You're either with us, or your with the terrorists!!!"
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