So about how many Jedi were around during the OT?

[Morpheus 02]

So about how many Jedi (or even active Force Users) were around during the OT?

I am not counting Grogu/Baby Yoda but rather adults.

And what were they doing during the battles (other than running from being hunted)?
Of course there was Ben and Yoda.

We also know Asoka was out there

But who else? And why didn't they surface when Luke was training a new order?

Did Ben Solo REALLY kill all the new trainees? Could a couple have escaped?

Just a thought lingering in my head

 

[USS Firefly]

But who else? And why didn't they surface when Luke was training a new order?

Maybe there were other Jedi Academy's, why risk to have all the younglings / Padawans in one Palace? Maybe the other Jedi were looking for force sensitive people

 

[The Wormhole]

Did Ben Solo REALLY kill all the new trainees? Could a couple have escaped?

There were a few who joined him and became the Knights of Ren.

 

[JD]

So about how many Jedi (or even active Force Users) were around during the OT?

I am not counting Grogu/Baby Yoda but rather adults.

And what were they doing during the battles (other than running from being hunted)?
Of course there was Ben and Yoda.

We also know Asoka was out there

But who else? And why didn't they surface when Luke was training a new order?

Did Ben Solo REALLY kill all the new trainees? Could a couple have escaped?

Just a thought lingering in my head

If you are talking about actual, fully trained Jedi Knights during the actual time the Original Trilogy was happening, I think Yoda might be the only one we know about for sure. There were a few in the time leading up to the OT, but by the time we hit A New Hope, most were either taken off the board, like Kana and Ezra, weren't fully trained Jedi, like Ahsoka, or we haven't learned their fate yet, like Cal Kestis and Cere Junda.
Have we seen yet if the Inquisitors were still around during the movies?

I just checked the list of Order 66 survivors and there was one other character on the list who did survive, a former Jedi named Naq Med, who left The Order before the Clones. It says that he survived a fight with the Grand Inquisitor and lived all the way to The New Republic era. All the article says is that after he his fight with the Grand Inquisitor he fled to the Pam'ba until he died.
Every other survivor on the list either died, became an Inquisitor, or their fate hasn't been revealed.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Keep in mind that just because they survived 66 doesn't mean they were still alive by 0BBY.

And going further, I suspect the number of Jedi still alive post-Endor is probably less than 10.

In fact, I think as they build the New Republic Era, they'll want to keep that list as small as possible for casual accessibility. (That is to say nothing for theme building.) In fact, I suspect that early on in Ashoka, it's made canon that there's she, Luke (Leia), Cal, and that's it. And possibly whoever it was who rescued Grogs - my money is on Mace as it seems SLJ wants back in.

As far as Ben's massacre, I think there's going to be a lot of "certain point of view" retconning going on in the upcoming years.

 

[JD]

Yeah, it's probably is a safe bet that most of the characters who's fates haven't been established yet probably didn't make it to A New Hope.
The only ones I'm not sure about are Cal Kestis, and Cere Junda, right now I could see their fates going either way. That's one of the big reasons I'm anxious for some kind of follow up to Fallen Order, I really want to know what happened to them as they got closer to A New Hope.

 

[Xerxes82]

Yeah, it's probably is a safe bet that most of the characters who's fates haven't been established yet probably didn't make it to A New Hope.
The only ones I'm not sure about are Cal Kestis, and Cere Junda, right now I could see their fates going either way. That's one of the big reasons I'm anxious for some kind of follow up to Fallen Order, I really want to know what happened to them as they got closer to A New Hope.

So the problem I have with Cal, and this applies to Cere as well, is the same problem that Kanan Jarrus posed in Rebels. As fully knighted Jedi the break the core conceit of Luke's existence. By Return of the Jedi, Luke is the last Jedi. We can "a certain point of view" that one I suppose, but let's be fair: Yoda isn't qualifying that statement one bit. Luke is it, and it is Luke.

Ahsoka gets around it on a technicality, having left the order before she was knighted, and so is a Jedi in practice but not in name. Ezra winds up in the same space, effectively a Jedi but not quite really. And even then, by seemingly taking Ezra out of play during the OT, the Rebels creatives hedged their bets just in case. By being MIA during those events, he can be found later and still not break the conceit.

Kanan had to die in my mind. Period, full stop. There was no way he got out of Rebels alive, and sure enough he didn't. Now, his death worked magnificently in that show and felt both earned and meaningful, never like they just had to remove a piece. Cere and Cal fall into that same category, to an extent.

I do think that Cere is probably toast. Her character in Fallen Order is excellent, but the set up for a heroic sacrifice would be a solid endpoint for her. She failed to protect her padawan during Order 66, but this time maybe she gets it done and presumably it will be saving Cal.

Cal is an interesting one. The ending of Fallen Order, and some of the character interactions within it, definitely open doors for Cal to leave the Jedi path. Which could put him into a similar place to Ahsoka and Ezra. But if he stays on it? He almost can't live to the OT, or at least not to RotJ, it's the same problem Kanan had. And honestly, the conclusion of Fallen Order creates a situation where a rematch with Vader would be coming full circle for Cal. I don't know what the context for it would be, I leave that to more clever people than I, but I can absolutely see Cal's story ending with Vader's blade.

 

[USS Firefly]

We can "a certain point of view" that one I suppose, but let's be fair: Yoda isn't qualifying that statement one bit. Luke is it, and it is Luke.

But Yoda also thought that the Sith were extinct while he worked with one for over 13 years

 

[Ithekro]

Until his death, Yoda is the only one that is qualified to promote people to become Jedi Knights and Masters. After Kanan leaves the mortal plain. the only trained Jedi that remain are Yoda and Obi-wan Kenobi. They train Luke and Yoda declares Luke to be a Jedi Knight after he faces Darth Vader again. All other remaining Padawans were not declared to be Jedi Knights by Yoda, thus they are not Jedi Knights. Ezra, Ashoka, and possibly Cal are probably as skilled as Luke Skywalker, and certainly more experienced than Luke before Endor. Luke's advantage is of course that he is the son of the Chosen One, and quite possibly has the most potential power in the Force of any remaining Force user after the death of Darth Vader.

So any of these remaining Padawans...should they wish to become official Jedi Knights....post- Endor...need to talk with the only remaining Jedi Knight.....Luke Skywalker. Ashoka is done with the Jedi, so she's out on that count. Though Ashoka is likely the most skilled of the former Padawans and certainly more experienced than Luke is. Her potential is likely lower than Luke's due to well being the son of Anakin Skywalker, though Ashoka is up there as the Padawan of Anakin Skywalker.

Cal....not sure for my part. Also its unclear if he survived even to the Battle of Yavin, much less Endor.

Erza missing in action for the main part of the Galactic Civil War....so it will be up to the Ashoka series to show us what's up with him.

There shouldn't be anyone else of note that is going to act. There are rumors that Quilan Vos survived Order 66, but went into hiding.

 

[Tuskin38]

There are rumors that Quilan Vos survived Order 66, but went into hiding.

He’s on a list of living (or at least presumed living by the Empire) Jedi in one of the Vader comics.

There were a few who joined him and became the Knights of Ren.

I could be mistaken but believe that was retconned away.

The knights of Ren are force sensitive but they’re not trained to use it, they just use it like a blunt instrument.

 

[The Wormhole]

I could be mistaken but believe that was retconned away.

The knights of Ren are force sensitive but they’re not trained to use it, they just use it like a blunt instrument.

Bah? I thought the whole point in TLJ when Luke said there were a few of his students who disappeared with Ben Solo after the rest were killed was to establish that they were the Knights of Ren. If that got retconned, then what happened to those students?

 

[Tuskin38]

I thought the whole point in TLJ when Luke said there were a few of his students who disappeared with Ben Solo after the rest were killed was to establish that they were the Knights of Ren.

I assume they became the three students who were off planet at the time, that Kylo later killed in the "The Rise of Kylo Ren" comic.

 

[Reverend]

I mean the obvious answer is "however many a given story needs there to be."

From a world building perspective; just look at the math. During the Clone Wars there was around 10,000 Knights an Masters in the order. Even if Order 66 was 99% effective, that still leaves a hundred fully trained Jedi in the wind. Doubtless Vader and the Inquisitors accounted for many of them one way or the other over the next few decades, but there could still be others. Most probably just hid and tried to make a new life. Disappeared into the galaxy.
Also, let's be clear: even if they had a mind to join how could any Jedi in hiding even know Kanan, Ezra, Cal, Cere, or Luke were active? It's not like one could put out a press release or anything. The Empire controlled all public information and the Alliance didn't exactly advertise it's disposition or whereabouts.

But who else? And why didn't they surface when Luke was training a new order?

Maybe some were still around when Luke was building his temple, but so what? Most weren't Jedi anymore, and even if Luke could do what the Empire couldn't and actually track them down; who's to say they'd want anything to do with any of it.

Did Ben Solo REALLY kill all the new trainees? Could a couple have escaped?

According to the Kylo Ren comic, the survivours that Luke seemed to think joined him actually went after him to take him down, and were all killed (I think? It's been a minute.)

 

[JD]

Also, let's be clear: even if they had a mind to join how could any Jedi in hiding even know Kanan, Ezra, Cal, Cere, or Luke were active? It's not like one could put out a press release or anything. The Empire controlled all public information and the Alliance didn't exactly advertise it's disposition or whereabouts.

I have to wonder if anybody ever mentioned Ahoska, Ezra, or Kanan to Luke. They did move in a lot of the same circles, so it wouldn't be that hard to believe that someone might have mentioned to Luke that they'd worked with other Jedi, or former Jedi. Hell, Leia herself even worked with Kanan and Ezra at one point.

 

[Ithekro]

R2-D2 would know....of anyone, who was left. And at least encountered Kanan, Ezra, and of course knew Ashoka very well. But R2 doesn't....talk...much.

 

[The Wormhole]

I have to wonder if anybody ever mentioned Ahoska, Ezra, or Kanan to Luke.

According to the reference book that supposed to be written from Luke's perspective, he is aware of Ahsoka.

 

[JD]

Cool.

 

[Reverend]

According to the reference book that supposed to be written from Luke's perspective, he is aware of Ahsoka.

Cool.

Honestly, I'd take that with a grain of salt given the source. Reference books are nice, but if they won't feel behold to even story content in comics, then they're certainly not going to care about some reference book if the needs of the story are thus. Mind you, that book is told from Luke's perspective *after he's dead and is one with the force.* So that rather changes matters.

All that said, it feels weird given that we know he's very likely to have crossed paths with General Syndulla at some point that *nobody* mentioned Ahsoka, Kanan and/or Ezra to him. Plus there's about a 60% chance Rex was this guy, so who knows?

Mind you, what exactly would he do with this information? Kanan and Ezra are clearly off the board, and the last we saw Ahsoka pre-ANH she was seemingly stranded on Malachor. She obviously got out by the time of Mandalorian & the Rebels coda, but for the duration of the trilogy she's also effectively "gone". So it's all rather academic, no?

 

[CorporalClegg]

Cal....not sure for my part. Also its unclear if he survived even to the Battle of Yavin, much less Endor.

During the time they were developing the game, Monaghan's star was rising pretty quickly. He was staring on a successful/popular series and had earned much acclaim for his role on Gotham. The mocap they used isn't cheap. And I don't think they'd have made it as detailed (and to his likeness) as they did unless the intent was to eventually bring him to live action.

 

[JD]

Not necessarily, lots of games use that same level of mo-cap detail with actors at about Cameron Monaghan's level, with no intent to bring them to live action. It's pretty much just standard practice for most high profile games to do that kind of thing these days.