Snowpiercer (TV series)

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  1. JD

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    The teaser for Season 2 gives us our first look at the major new addition to the cast that we did not see at the end of the Season 1 finale. MAJOR SPOILER FOR THE SEASON 1 FINALE.
     
  2. EmoBorg

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    A question.

    The Brakeman were like police force for the train for what i can see. They seem to police the third class and tailies.

    What about the group led by the Irish SAS type guy ? The ones in black. What was their function ?

    And the first class folks seem to have their own private bodyguards as well.

    Altogether there were three levels of security on that train from what i can see.
     
  3. JD

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    I think the Jackboots were more of a military type of thing, so they came in to deal with the larger scale issues, like Layton's rebellion, while the Brakemen dealt with the smaller day to day issues.
     
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    My apologies. I thought it was clear that I was talking about the whole season with my long post but I guess I didn't provide enough warning.
     
  5. Owain Taggart

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    No problem, but it should be spoilered for those who have not caught up yet. I only just came upon that confirmation via Episode 5, followed up by Episode 6, which is quite a way in. Given that it becomes a pretty significant issue leading to an uprising, detail like that probably shouldn't be posted out in the open. :)
     
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    Yeah, you're right. I've edited the post to mark it as spoilerific for the whole season.
     
  7. Mark_Nguyen

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    Yeah, to me the Jackboots were the security/national guard, the Brakemen the police/bylaw enforcing and investigation, and the firsties had their private bodyguards on top of that.

    The finale took me by surprise. I’d read the synopses if the original French comics so I’d known of the concepts, but the execution here is totally different. There’s no Wilford in the comics for one (no spoilers) to drive certain narrative elements forward.

    I was also struggling with why they had to be on a moving train, and I’d concluded that it was simply powered by science-fictionium like warp drive or the TARDIS. If the engine delivers perpetual energy then why not just power a bunker? But if the engine NEEDS to be moving at a certain speed in order to function at perpetual levels, then I can accept the sweeping justification. Maybe it siphons kinetic energy from the Earth itself somehow.

    Mark
     
  8. JD

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    Just out of curiosity I looked up perpetual motion on Wikipedia, and one of the first things it says is that perpetual motion machines are impossible.
     
  9. Owain Taggart

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    Well, the more I've been watching, I feel it's gotten more interesting as it goes on. The first half of the season is a little slow, but the interesting stuff starts to happen towards the latter half.

    The Brakemen, I see as a version of conductors. They do a bit of everything that conductors do, and have overall authority on the train and represent the company. The jackboots seem to do everything that the Brakemen aren't able to accomplish on their own.

    Yeah, they are, and that brings up something I've wondered. Have they explained how they get their power? It would have initially have to get its power from something and be able to keep generating it, and I'd assume that in the bottom compartments of the train. It still has to get its power from somewhere though, like maybe the ice.
     
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  10. Silvercrest

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    You had to find that out on Wikipedia????? :vulcan::vulcan::vulcan:
     
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  12. JD

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    I didn't really know anything about them, other than the basic concept.
     
  13. Owain Taggart

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    So, I finished this tonight, and I really liked it. I also watched the movie this weekend and I feel the TV series does better justice to the concept. In the movie, it feels like they're rushing through everything, and we only get quick glances at the other cars. The concept seems better suited to a TV series that allow us to see more of it and the lives behind the characters.

    I thought there had also been a miniseries in production, but maybe it was this that morphed into a fully fledged series.
     
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    I was bored and needed something to watch tonight while trying to relax before bed and so I decided to check this out, and I liked the first episode quite a bit.

    Because I've never seen the film version, my big takeaways are that it reminded me of Dystopian Fiction series like The Hunger Games and Mortal Engines, and classic detective Noir stories, with just the tiniest bit of Les Miserables thrown in too.

    It was a little hard to discern the major characters besides Melanie Cahill and Andre Layton, but the idea of an evolving murder mystery juxtaposed against a brewing revolution is fun and gives the series something to build on episodes to-do I side.

    I didn't quite understand the point of the ending 'twist' with Melanie going to the front of the train (which is apparently accessed via a dorm-style residence) and being identified as Mr. Wilford, but hopefully things will be made clearer as the season goes on.
     
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    The TV show is a prequel to the movie, where Wilfred is (figuratively) an all powerful God.

    That means that either this show is a reimagining of the movie, or shit is going to get weird, or both.
     
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    I know that Melanie isn't the real Wilford, which is part of why I didn't get the point of the final scene.
     
  19. JD

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    It's more complicated than that.
     
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  20. Owain Taggart

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    I'm under the impression that he doesn't really exist in this version and never has, but rather a created persona to keep people in line, and nothing more than a brand. I watched the movie after I finished the series and I honestly felt it was a bit off-putting that Willard was even there at the end, which made me appreciate the cloud of mystery in the series.