I thought Clark blasting with heat vision showed an uncharacteristicly large amount of smarts. Icicle was wearing the Nabob helmut, he had magic, and as we saw a moment later Icicle would have just brushed him aside.
Ah. Well that's different then.
That said, I still disagree in part. What makes a villain is their personality, not their powerset. Otherwise Lex Luthor wouldn't be the threat he is, nor many of the Batman rogues, nor Vandal Savage, Kingpin, Doc Oc, half of the Flash Rogues, and a host of others. Powersets alone don't make a villain, unless they're on the level of a Galactus, Darkseid, Onslaught, Anti-Monitor type.
The reason this Icicle was a non-credible villain was because he wasn't portrayed in a threatening, credible manner, not because his powerset was limited. Basically, he was a whiny idiot who decided to go toe to toe with Clark and co.
Ah. Well that's different then.
That said, I still disagree in part. What makes a villain is their personality, not their powerset. Otherwise Lex Luthor wouldn't be the threat he is, nor many of the Batman rogues, nor Vandal Savage, Kingpin, Doc Oc, half of the Flash Rogues, and a host of others. Powersets alone don't make a villain, unless they're on the level of a Galactus, Darkseid, Onslaught, Anti-Monitor type.
The reason this Icicle was a non-credible villain was because he wasn't portrayed in a threatening, credible manner, not because his powerset was limited. Basically, he was a whiny idiot who decided to go toe to toe with Clark and co.
Ah. Well that's different then.
That said, I still disagree in part. What makes a villain is their personality, not their powerset. Otherwise Lex Luthor wouldn't be the threat he is, nor many of the Batman rogues, nor Vandal Savage, Kingpin, Doc Oc, half of the Flash Rogues, and a host of others. Powersets alone don't make a villain, unless they're on the level of a Galactus, Darkseid, Onslaught, Anti-Monitor type.
The reason this Icicle was a non-credible villain was because he wasn't portrayed in a threatening, credible manner, not because his powerset was limited. Basically, he was a whiny idiot who decided to go toe to toe with Clark and co.
But didn't Icicle have help from Amanda Waller and Checkmate? In THAT case, it's more formidable, no? KInda like that Highlander episode where a newbie was getting more powerful, not due to his skill, but because of "insider" information.
Also, the JSA does NOT know Checkmate is behind it, so while it seems like JSA won, it's really round 1. And in that case, Checkmate IS a credible villain, IMO.
Ah. Well that's different then.
That said, I still disagree in part. What makes a villain is their personality, not their powerset. Otherwise Lex Luthor wouldn't be the threat he is, nor many of the Batman rogues, nor Vandal Savage, Kingpin, Doc Oc, half of the Flash Rogues, and a host of others. Powersets alone don't make a villain, unless they're on the level of a Galactus, Darkseid, Onslaught, Anti-Monitor type.
The reason this Icicle was a non-credible villain was because he wasn't portrayed in a threatening, credible manner, not because his powerset was limited. Basically, he was a whiny idiot who decided to go toe to toe with Clark and co.
But didn't Icicle have help from Amanda Waller and Checkmate? In THAT case, it's more formidable, no? KInda like that Highlander episode where a newbie was getting more powerful, not due to his skill, but because of "insider" information.
Also, the JSA does NOT know Checkmate is behind it, so while it seems like JSA won, it's really round 1. And in that case, Checkmate IS a credible villain, IMO.
