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Smallville: 8x22 "Doomsday" - Discussion and Spoilers

Grade the episode and the season

  • Episode: Excellent

    Votes: 4 6.7%
  • Episode: Good

    Votes: 10 16.7%
  • Episode: Average

    Votes: 17 28.3%
  • Episode: Bad

    Votes: 12 20.0%
  • Episode: Terrible

    Votes: 9 15.0%
  • Season: Excellent

    Votes: 3 5.0%
  • Season: Good

    Votes: 18 30.0%
  • Season: Average

    Votes: 13 21.7%
  • Season: Bad

    Votes: 7 11.7%
  • Season: Terrible

    Votes: 8 13.3%

  • Total voters
    60
Blah. This show needs better writers. This was lame.

The thing that pissed me off the most? Procutus spoiling Star Trek for me. EVERYONE HAS NOT SEEN THE DAMN FILM YET! :klingon: :scream::mad::censored:

I make sure I stay away from the Star Trek movie forums, I try to avoid all spoilers for the damn thing, and you go and spoil it for me in the damn Smallville thread? I AM SO FUCKING PISSED! This is the SMALLVILLE spoiler thread, not the STAR TREK one. Consider yourself on my list.



Dagman, I apologize for spoiling a small part of the film. It certainly wasn't my intention to ruin it for everyone, and I certainly hope it doesn't keep you from seeing it. I honestly didn't think the comment was that detailed when I posted it, but I am sorry it bothered you that much. It wasn't done deliberately, I assure you.
 
Could I ask WHERE the producers have said this? If it's online, I'd like a link...so I can laugh at the lameness.

I read it on Kryptonsite. I'll have to look for the link.

Not really a surprising thing though. We never heard Jimmy called James Bartholomew Olsen on the show and they introduced him as Henry James Olsen. It's not out of the question for family members of have the same name from time to time. One of my best friends in high school was named Josh and he had an older brother who's middle name was Josh.

Also, the little brother was wearing a bowtie.
 
So... When following in his brothers footsteps, will "Jimmy" be following them straight into Chloe's bedroom?

In ten years when he's a man finally, she is still going to look just the smoking same... (Vampire? Alison I mean, not Chloe.) besides, she still looks exactly the same as she did 10 years earlier, so really, this little blonde girl still appears to be a 14 year old girl right now while pushing 27 so it wouldn't be completely insane for a lad of 10 or 11 to think he had a chance with a 14 year old even if she's actually nearly 30... Kansas is in the south right?

Another Olsen might just be as good as it gets?

of course, she could save time stalking his parents rather than waitnig for the boy to grow up.
 
Well I caught it on Wednesday night hoping for something epic....a big battle between Clark and Doomsday that had been building for the entire season and was let down by a mediocre five minute fist brawl. I'm not even sure what the hell the point was if they weren't going to even give us at least a ten minute slug fest where Clark and Doomsday tear downtown Metropolis apart. Lex as General Zod's host did more damage than Doomsday's mere presence did.

Jimmy dying...I was sort of predicting this would happen with the clues of the not so vetern, I actually thought the vetern was going to be my precious Chloe! Then revealing that Jimmy wasn't really the Jimmy we know...the kid brother was...so that awesome Jimmy Olsen special they put together on the Season Six DVD meant nothing now that they pulled this stunt. No offense to Aaron Ashmore who did a good job playing Jimmy but they should've never have introduced him in the first place.

General Zod returning...I thought this was inevitable and I thought that the CGI looked pretty close to the Terrance Stamp image they showed back in at the end of "Zod" when he gets sucked back into the Phantom Zone. Him being a ressurected vassal of Davis is an interesting theory. This scene reminded me of Superman II when Clark decides to become a human and tell Lois his secret and goes off to the Fortress of Solitude to get depowered only to have to come back to stop Zod and his two companions. The Death of Clark Kent was a lame comic arc I hope the Smallville arc isn't but I don't have my hopes high...this has happened before when Jor-El programmed his Kal-El personaility, I wonder if they're going to do a Krypton Man arc like in the John Bryne comic when Clark temporarily has amnesia or whatever and is Kryptonian. I felt something weird when Clark appeared suddenly after taking down Doomsday...if he even did that.

Lois disapearing with the Legion ring has interesting prospects...since Clark stated to Chloe that she isn't on the planet perhaps she was transported to the future and is with the LEGION! I thought that Rokk's suggestion of bringing Doomsday to the future where the Legion was waiting was awesome, would have loved to seen that fight.

Tess I want to bang...lol...Cassidy Freeman is extremely hot and even though the writers have seemed to ruin her character already by making her a lap dog to Zod (I think it's inevitable, remember that one of his first actions upon taking possession of Lex was to seek out a mate and he chose Lana). We'll see where this goes.


Admiral Young
 
nice to see that Smallville has yet to finish its retcon of not only Superman mythology, but of itself.
 
I have this weird feeling that we're going to get Zod plus substitutes for Ursa (Tess) and Non (Doomsday) here.
 
So back to the inconsistency of Not Jimmy Olson. A few episodes ago, he broke into Chloe's apartment, looking to steal some cash from a jar. But we learn in "Doomsday" that he bought Chloe a room in the biggest building in Metropolis. Now, ignoring how he possibly could have acquire something like this (he wasn't even working with Oliver at the time), why didn't he just sell the damn thing and buy all the smack he wanted? I don't care how much he loved Chloe but a drug addict would sell that thing in a second for cash.

Seriously, Jimmy might have been the most well-adjusted drug addict on television.
 
Jimmy bought the Watchtower suite prior to "Bride" so we don't know how much money he might've saved but yeah it was lame seeing as how they showed him sneaking around Chloe's apartment building stealing money. Another example of poor execution on the part of the writers.

We've already got Smallville replacements for Ursa and Non. They used Faoura (not spelling right sorry) as his wife back when she escaped the Zone and inhabited Lois to let Davis know he was really hers and Zod's son grown in a petri dish or whatever. Also in Oracle or Vassal didn't two Kryptonian disciples escape to attempt to prepare the way for Zod, the black dude and the chick that Clark sent back to the Zone after they attempted to capture him? I took those as Zod' flunkies, I agree that we might get a substitute for Non. I wish they'd bring back Geoff John and let him become the showrunner and let him run wild, he'd set things straight I think.
 
So, it seems as if I was not the only person confused by this episode. Was that Clark at the end? It seemed suspicious that we just see the explosion and then have to take a characters word that the mission was accomplished. Where did it say that Lois had the ring? I missed that.
 
So, it seems as if I was not the only person confused by this episode.
Definitely not the only one.

Fans got a double shock in the season finale when both Davis and Jimmy Olsen (Aaron Ashmore) died at each other’s hands. What was your reaction when you received the script?
It was definitely a shock. I didn’t see it going down like that, so I was very surprised. Aaron is such a great actor that I really disliked the idea of taking him out. I don’t know that I saw Davis freaking out and killing Jimmy. It’s my job to just say the lines convincingly, but that was something I struggled with.
 
LOL--well, Sean Connery also claims not to understand half of what he acts in; and Malcom McDowell says that he didn't know Linderman was supposed to be dead until the director told him that he wasn't allowed to touch anybody AND that he had to call his son to explain the story to him.
 
Bad points:
* Oliver and co turning on Clark instead of helping him.
* Clark taking the above lying down. Oliver is a murderer and then he turns on Clark ? Clark should be bringing him down, not working with him.
I don't see it this way at all.

At the end of the forgettable Lana arc, Clark is enraged at Lex's plot to separate Clark and Lana forever, and races to where Lex's truck is.

What was he going to do, slap his wrist?

Ollie just beat him to it. The reason Clark is so upset at Ollie is because he sees in Ollie what he found inside himself.

Meanwhile, Ollie is feeling remorse, but he is too butch with Clark to admit it. In the Zatana episode we see Ollie obviously contemplating wishing he didn't kill Lex. He feels regret and remorse, he not evil.

Not to mention, Lex had killed the board of Lexcorp, almost killed Ollie, and then directly sent Toyman after Ollie in the hospital. In an ideal world, Ollie would have called the cops and Lex would stand trial and blah blah. But Ollie can't send the police after a man who is already officially dead.

Clark and Ollie both need to stand down with each other. I kind of see this whole thing, they are both conflicted in their emotions over this, and taking it out on each other. Neither is in the right. Ollie at least internally admits he went too far, but also probably still can't think of what his other option was. Clark wants to see things in black and white, which is what killed Jimmy, he couldn't see the grey issues with Davis.

Hopefully the writers actually go somewhere with this, and don't just use it as an excuse to keep Clark out of the League for another season.
 
doomday was bad! i was hopeing for a better fight they what we got! i hope next year we get superman or i be mad as hack lol take care love dr;)
 
^ Or he is being coy.

That was a very interesting interview, especially with the implication that it was DC comics that wanted to death of Not.Jimmy.
 
^ Or he is being coy.

That was a very interesting interview, especially with the implication that it was DC comics that wanted to death of Not.Jimmy.

What I'd like to know is why DC wanted him dead? Does it really matter that Jimmy Olson was on Smallville? Does it matter that Smallville is doing a different version of a character that been on the movies and TV for years? What, did DC need him to play a part in another failed Superman movie? Say what you will but SV did manage to get a lot of use out of him.
 
I heard that DC is starting to get tighter control over the show once again (think season three levels).
 
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