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Well, it wasn't just Charlotte's death, everyone was getting sick from the time jumps, but also pretty much every other survivor of 815 was killed off, ether by flaming arrows or by explosions and gunfire at the river. So that is pretty bad. Sure, they were no name extras to us, but to the Losties they were all friends and people they lived with. And 30+ of them getting set on fire or killed after Jack leaves is pretty bad.
 
Why doesn't Miles have his ability to speak with the dead in the alternate timeline? I am presuming his ability is like the Six Sense kids' and it is just some innate gift some people in the world have, but not having it in the other timeline seems to indicate it is connected with Jacob or the island.
 
Why doesn't Miles have his ability to speak with the dead in the alternate timeline? I am presuming his ability is like the Six Sense kids' and it is just some innate gift some people in the world have, but not having it in the other timeline seems to indicate it is connected with Jacob or the island.

We don't know for 100% that he doesn't have that ability in the other timeline. He might have it and in the alternate timeline use it to take to the dead people in the crimes he investigates. Since we haven't had a flashsideways ep. devoted to him (and I'm sure we won't) then we don't know for sure that he can't talk to the dead. I might just be something he doesn't tell all his cop friends and partners about because they would think he was crazy.
 
Here's something I've been wondering about recently: when Jack is in the funeral home with Locke's body, he says that Locke told him some very bad things happened after he left the island.

What were those very bad things? The only bad thing I can recall happening between Jack leaving and then Locke leaving that Locke would know about is Charlotte's death, and with all the other deaths before that, it hardly seems worth mentioning. The only other significant event was the time-jumping, but why might Locke call that very bad?
The scene in the season four finale where Jack tells Ben what Locke told him is really at odds with the scene in season five. Jack told Ben that Locke told him that some very bad things happened and that it was Jack's fault for leaving, but Locke never said that in the short scene they had together. Probably the biggest contradiction, though, is when Ben asked Jack, "Did he tell you I was off the island?" And Jack said yes. Not only did Locke not tell Jack that, but Locke didn't even know Ben was off the island until Ben came to see him and kill him.

Another discrepency between the season four finale and "Life and Death of J. Benthem" is that in the season four finale, Walt tells Hurley that Jeremy Benthem came to visit him, but Locke never used that name when he met Walt.
 
I'd really like an explanation of the hatch and the numbers. Those are the biggest WTFs of the series, particularly because such a big deal was made of them.

I'd be content with something like "The numbers are Jacob's magical way of keeping smokey on the island, and the 'end of the world' would have occurred if he escaped." Something.
 
You don't accept the Valenzeti Equation as a valid reason?

I'd argue the numbers are connected to events, just like people are connected to each other, but it doesn't have to mean that the numbers themselves are any more important.

Afterall, the Dharma Iniative wouldn't have been aware of Jacob's number scheme when they wrote them on the hatch and broadcast them across the Pacific Ocean (which led to all of both Rousseau and Hurley's encounters with the numbers).
 
Here's something I've been wondering about recently: when Jack is in the funeral home with Locke's body, he says that Locke told him some very bad things happened after he left the island.

What were those very bad things? The only bad thing I can recall happening between Jack leaving and then Locke leaving that Locke would know about is Charlotte's death, and with all the other deaths before that, it hardly seems worth mentioning. The only other significant event was the time-jumping, but why might Locke call that very bad?
The scene in the season four finale where Jack tells Ben what Locke told him is really at odds with the scene in season five. Jack told Ben that Locke told him that some very bad things happened and that it was Jack's fault for leaving, but Locke never said that in the short scene they had together. Probably the biggest contradiction, though, is when Ben asked Jack, "Did he tell you I was off the island?" And Jack said yes. Not only did Locke not tell Jack that, but Locke didn't even know Ben was off the island until Ben came to see him and kill him.

Another discrepency between the season four finale and "Life and Death of J. Benthem" is that in the season four finale, Walt tells Hurley that Jeremy Benthem came to visit him, but Locke never used that name when he met Walt.
So it's even worse than I thought? :lol:
 
You don't accept the Valenzeti Equation as a valid reason?

I don't even fucking know what that is. Have they explained the numbers and I somehow forgot? Are entire episodes missing from my brain?

What seasons do I need to rewatch?
 
Why doesn't Miles have his ability to speak with the dead in the alternate timeline? I am presuming his ability is like the Six Sense kids' and it is just some innate gift some people in the world have, but not having it in the other timeline seems to indicate it is connected with Jacob or the island.

We don't know for 100% that he doesn't have that ability in the other timeline. He might have it and in the alternate timeline use it to take to the dead people in the crimes he investigates. Since we haven't had a flashsideways ep. devoted to him (and I'm sure we won't) then we don't know for sure that he can't talk to the dead. I might just be something he doesn't tell all his cop friends and partners about because they would think he was crazy.
But it does stand to reason that if Hurley is exhibiting no paranormal ability in the alt-reality, then it may also be the case for Miles. I do feel they're abilities are somehow connected to the peculiar course their lives have taken in the prime reality. I'm not really sure how though, or if it's anything at all
 
Why doesn't Miles have his ability to speak with the dead in the alternate timeline? I am presuming his ability is like the Six Sense kids' and it is just some innate gift some people in the world have, but not having it in the other timeline seems to indicate it is connected with Jacob or the island.

We don't know for 100% that he doesn't have that ability in the other timeline. He might have it and in the alternate timeline use it to take to the dead people in the crimes he investigates. Since we haven't had a flashsideways ep. devoted to him (and I'm sure we won't) then we don't know for sure that he can't talk to the dead. I might just be something he doesn't tell all his cop friends and partners about because they would think he was crazy.
But it does stand to reason that if Hurley is exhibiting no paranormal ability in the alt-reality, then it may also be the case for Miles. I do feel they're abilities are somehow connected to the peculiar course their lives have taken in the prime reality. I'm not really sure how though, or if it's anything at all

But Hurley only developed his ability to talk to dead people after being on the Island. He never was shown to have it before. In fact it might not even be an "ability" of Hurley's. Maybe the "ghosts" just choose him for some reason. Maybe the "ghosts" could appear to anyone if they wanted (Christian certainly does) and everyone has heard the whispers but the choose to talk to Hurley. Maybe because he will listen?

Miles was shown as having the ability since being a little kid (and also after being on the Island) so he could still have his powers, even if Hurley doesn't (since alt-Hurley was never on the Island). I'd assume that Alt-Miles was still on the Island as a child, young Alt-Ben was there after all, so there is no known reason why young Alt-Miles couldn't have been there as well.

But, as a interesting side note, did everyone notice that Mile's dad had both arms when he introduced Hurley?

That means The Incident might never happened in the Alt-reality. If the bomb was the dividing point in the timeline, it went off after the good doctor's arm was already crushed by the machinery at the Swan site. That means he still should have had a fake arm in the Alt-timeline future when he introduced Hurley because the timeline wouldn't have changed until after his arm was crushed.

So that means that the bomb most likely didn't sink the Island (which is good, because I never thought that it did). Also, if the bomb did go off in the Alt-timeline, then the Dr. should have been killed since he was so close to the blast when it happened.

So I think we can now rule out that the bomb went off in both timelines. In fact, it might not have gone off in either timeline.

What? Then what was the flash of light when Juliette hit the bomb? I'm not sure.

But if it didn't go off in the normal timeline (since the Swan was built, Desmond pushed the button, etc...) and it didn't go off in the alt-timeline (the Dr. is alive and has both arms) then did it go off at all?
 
You don't accept the Valenzeti Equation as a valid reason?

I don't even fucking know what that is. Have they explained the numbers and I somehow forgot? Are entire episodes missing from my brain?

What seasons do I need to rewatch?

The Alternate Reality Game between Seasons 2 and 3. It was either done to kill time or to explain some things about the Dharma Initiative that they might not have time for on screen.
 
We don't know for 100% that he doesn't have that ability in the other timeline. He might have it and in the alternate timeline use it to take to the dead people in the crimes he investigates. Since we haven't had a flashsideways ep. devoted to him (and I'm sure we won't) then we don't know for sure that he can't talk to the dead. I might just be something he doesn't tell all his cop friends and partners about because they would think he was crazy.
But it does stand to reason that if Hurley is exhibiting no paranormal ability in the alt-reality, then it may also be the case for Miles. I do feel they're abilities are somehow connected to the peculiar course their lives have taken in the prime reality. I'm not really sure how though, or if it's anything at all

But Hurley only developed his ability to talk to dead people after being on the Island. He never was shown to have it before. In fact it might not even be an "ability" of Hurley's. Maybe the "ghosts" just choose him for some reason. Maybe the "ghosts" could appear to anyone if they wanted (Christian certainly does) and everyone has heard the whispers but the choose to talk to Hurley. Maybe because he will listen?

Miles was shown as having the ability since being a little kid (and also after being on the Island) so he could still have his powers, even if Hurley doesn't (since alt-Hurley was never on the Island). I'd assume that Alt-Miles was still on the Island as a child, young Alt-Ben was there after all, so there is no known reason why young Alt-Miles couldn't have been there as well.
They never did completely explain "Dave" & I sure wish they would, because it would unequivocally answer the question of Hurley's sanity, once & for all. If he'd had a full blown, subconsciously conjured, hallucination, then he was, in fact, rather... mental. However, if this was a foreshadowing and/or primary instance of his ability, then it would be prior to the island

Hurley has stated that he is not crazy. Jacob has told him so, also, & I believe him to be sane. So this condition where he had some kind of person that only he could see, ought to be settled. It is a big mistake to leave that one unanswered
 
You don't accept the Valenzeti Equation as a valid reason?

I don't even fucking know what that is. Have they explained the numbers and I somehow forgot? Are entire episodes missing from my brain?

What seasons do I need to rewatch?

The Alternate Reality Game between Seasons 2 and 3. It was either done to kill time or to explain some things about the Dharma Initiative that they might not have time for on screen.

Ah, thank you. I thought I was going mad. Is is still available in some form? Sounds like it would make a nice DVD extra.
 
Well, iirc, the whole thing was very interactive and involved discovering certain websites. Not sure if it can be replicated. I'd check lostpedia for more info, I figure they'd cover most of it.
 
I absolutely HAVE to have these two things happen by the end of the show.

1- The outrigger chase mystery answered :whistle:

2- Vincent MUST appear in an episode :biggrin:

I will be doing a standing ovation during both of these things happening. Think of me and how happy they make me when these occur. :guffaw:

I'm dead serious about this. HAVE TO HAPPEN.
 
Vincent's story seems done, unless you want him in a flash sideways (maybe Walt has a cat named Vincent in the flashsideways ;) ).
 
I wanna see Vincent come running out of nowhere and, like, chomping onto Locke's arm at a crucial part, allowing the heroes to save the day. He's been spending all these seasons plotting his attack.

Or maybe he got flashed into the past with everyone else, and found a female to get it on with. He trained his litter to be super ninja agents of the island and, when he flashed back to the present, he discovered that his littler had continued on with his tradition and now he has an army of highly trained ninja dogs to aid in the upcoming battle of the ages.
 
Another small thing:

Why did Walt appear to Shannon those few times in Season two?

Why was he all wet?

Why was he talking backwards?

Why appear to Shannon and no one else?

Why was Sayid only able to see him that one time?

Walt wasn't dead (unless he died off screen and was "raised" by the fountain or something else brought him back to life.) so it wasn't smokie.

So if it was Walt, using a special ability, why target only Shannon? What did he want her to do? he didn't want her to die... he tried to warn her to be quiet during the rain storm, but Shannon ran around screaming and that got her shot. but I am sure that wasn't what Walt wanted. So what did he want?
 
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