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Sleepy Hollow Season 2 Discussion

On the reflection (or lack thereof) - I wasn't aware of the silvered-mirror-only aspect of the legend. I thought the lack just meant the person had no soul.
 
On the reflection (or lack thereof) - I wasn't aware of the silvered-mirror-only aspect of the legend. I thought the lack just meant the person had no soul.

That's my take on it, too. I think the silver thing may more of a "modern" (relatively speaking) attempt to rationalize an old superstition.
 
That's my take on it, too. I think the silver thing may more of a "modern" (relatively speaking) attempt to rationalize an old superstition.

Well, I did some research just now, and apparently the whole idea that vampires don't reflect in mirrors is one of the things that Bram Stoker introduced to the lore. So it'd be modern either way. And this site says that Stoker was basing it on the folklore that mirrors reflect the soul. So maybe the intent of the last scene of the episode is that Irving is soulless.

Still, the idea that silver can repel evil is a very old idea. The version I heard once was that God imbued it with that power to cleanse it of the stain of being the coin in which Judas was paid to betray Jesus. Although my research just now suggests that may be a Christianization of a much older belief. This site says that many cultures believe in silver's ability to ward off evil because of its association with the Moon, though the connection there eludes me (perhaps because the Moon lights the darkness and makes it safer?).
 
I wonder if Irving will get his old job back. I doubt if the people on the force will be happy with him despite the charges being dropped. And what's up with the reflection thing? I wish they would stop screwing around with that guy.

The conversation between Abby and Ichabod seemed like one of the steps they are taking to "fix" things. That's fine as long as it's resolved and we've heard the end of it.
 
I am a week behind because I watch on Hulu. I didn't recognize Michelle Trachtenberg as Abigail Adams at first and forgot she was going to be on the show. It was nice seeing her on SH. :)
 
You can watch the latest episodes on the Fox website and app.
I really enjoyed this week's episode. I'm a big Jaime Murray fan, so I go a big kick out of seeing her here. We also got some nice backstory for Hawley, which wasn't necessarily something I wanted, but was still nice none the less. I was also glad they addressed the issues that have come up between Ichabod and Abby lately. If the last couple episodes are examples of what the the show is going to be like in the future then I'm not as nervous as I was when they first announced they were going to be making changes to the show.
 
That's my take on it, too. I think the silver thing may more of a "modern" (relatively speaking) attempt to rationalize an old superstition.

Well, I did some research just now, and apparently the whole idea that vampires don't reflect in mirrors is one of the things that Bram Stoker introduced to the lore. So it'd be modern either way. And this site says that Stoker was basing it on the folklore that mirrors reflect the soul. So maybe the intent of the last scene of the episode is that Irving is soulless.

Still, the idea that silver can repel evil is a very old idea. The version I heard once was that God imbued it with that power to cleanse it of the stain of being the coin in which Judas was paid to betray Jesus. Although my research just now suggests that may be a Christianization of a much older belief. This site says that many cultures believe in silver's ability to ward off evil because of its association with the Moon, though the connection there eludes me (perhaps because the Moon lights the darkness and makes it safer?).

In Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle books (which drift in and out of historical accuracy, so take this with a grain of salt), one of alchemy's principle beliefs is that different metals are created through exposure to whatever light from the sky affects them the most.

So, gold is formed after exposure to sunlight, quicksilver results from the dim light of Mercury in the night sky (this explains its scarcity and its more common name, Mercury), and silver comes from exposure to moonlight. Hence, the link between silver and the moon.

This may all be a complete invention by the author, but it sounds accurate and true to my mind. YMMV.

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Anyone catch the preview for next week's Sleepy Hollow? Solomon Kane -- sorry, I mean, "Kent" -- arrives in town! First Lovecraft this season, and now Robert Howard. Awesome.;)
 
Good episode. The actor who played Solomon Kent looked very familiar to me, but I can't remember where I had seen him before.

Will Katrina be completely seduced by the Dark Side after her encounter with the warlock? Her magical powers have increased, but it seems only temporary.

It was good to see Henry again. I liked how he handled those thugs at the motel. And now that he's in possession of the Grimoire, I can't wait to find out what he and Irving are up to next. The Molloch/Apocalypse arc, which at first seemed like the defining premise of the show, is over, but there's definitely more in store.
 
Really enjoyed this one. I've never disliked Katrina as much as a lot of people seem to, but I thought these last few episodes have helped the character. Kent was a cool villain, and we got some cool action scenes in the episode.
It was great seeing Henry again. I liked his story here a lot.
I was starting to wish we would at least get some kind of a new big bad before the end of the season, and now we have an old one. I'm really curious to see how/why Irving is working for/with Henry. I'm assuming it must not have anything to do with Henry having his soul, since Katrina found he wasn't controlling it anymore.
 
As much as I love John Noble, I'm not sure how I feel about his character surviving and carrying on. It was a good ending. And they've already undone the two major deaths in that finale...
 
I'm fine with him turning into a cross between an anti-hero and a world conquering supervillain.

Not too happy about Irving clearly and willingly being evil, though. It just doesn't seem appropriate, especially given how even someone like Brooks wasn't willfully evil.
 
As much as I love John Noble, I'm not sure how I feel about his character surviving and carrying on. It was a good ending. And they've already undone the two major deaths in that finale...
agreed. feels like the show has been floundering since the death of Moloch.
 
Actually I suspect the plan was always to have Henry replace Moloch as the series' overall big bad. Well, maybe not always, but at least all season. You can only do so much with a special-effects creature that speaks in a dead language with ornate subtitles. If you could trade up from that to John Noble, wouldn't you?
 
Yeah, I could live without Henry, or any Big Bad. The standalone episodes have been really good. And I really wish they would cut Irving a break. Also, the ominous foreshadowing of Katrina turning to the dark side do not interest me.

Other than that, good episode. It was actually kind of Night Stalker-ish. It had lots of good character interactions and strong connections to Colonial America, which is what I'm looking for.
 
Is Hawley actually off the show? I didn't get that impression from the episode. If so I'm overjoyed I can't stand him.
 
Nice episode, did they use the sets from Salem? ;)
The neck-breaking scene was funny, Irving slightly taps Kent's shoulder and snap, dead warlock.
I actually like Hawley and Katrina but don't care much for Henry (even though I love John Noble)... something must clearly be wrong with me.
 
Hmm...I have not watched yet and should have stayed out of the thread.

I don't like that Irving is Henry's henchman. I will see how it plays out on screen, but I have not been a fan of Henry since the reveal of him being Jeremy. He just strikes me as a one-note villain that is always two steps ahead in the game. It grates on me. Although I love Noble as an actor, I cannot get behind his character.

Katrina's character is getting better this season, but she and Henry remain highly expendable in my book along with Hawley.
 
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