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Sleepy Hollow Season 2 Discussion

Beats me, but I'm the same way with the WIPs. Days seem long, but they vanish right out from under you. Maybe too much focus on work or a by-product of aging. Or maybe too much Internet. :rommie:
 
Definitely too much internet. I always end up distracted and online, instead of working.
 
Well, I am glad that Captain Irving is not gone for good because Hawley is not a good replacement. We already have one note Henry in the cast.

Was giving headless a head a good idea? He is still arrogant and all but it humanizes him too much. I love John Noble as an actor but it says something when I pity Katrina's jilted lover more than I do her child.

Is Hawley flip flopping between the Mills sisters? It looked like he was blowing Jenny off to get closer to Abby, but now he is getting ticked when Jenny shows another man attention. Perhaps the show runners thought that putting their female lead with a dude giving off a surfer vibe may not be the best idea, but now Jenny might be stuck with him.

It is nice to see Katrina using her powers, but she still strikes me as the most expendable of the main cast members with Henry trailing in second. As much as I like Ichabod, I don't really care for his family. Whereas with Abby, I love Jenny and just about anyone associated with her (Corbin, her mother, etc.).
 
I actually liked the use of giving the Headless Horseman a head. For the short time it was used, I would prefer it be using sparingly or not at all going forward. The problem with Hawley is he is not a good actor. Same writers putting dialog into Tom Mison's mouth and out comes poetry. The words the spew out of Matt Barr's are lifeless and dull. Hopefully he moves on at the end of the season.
 
I actually liked the use of giving the Headless Horseman a head. For the short time it was used, I would prefer it be using sparingly or not at all going forward. The problem with Hawley is he is not a good actor. Same writers putting dialog into Tom Mison's mouth and out comes poetry. The words the spew out of Matt Barr's are lifeless and dull. Hopefully he moves on at the end of the season.

Though storyline aside, I woulnd't suprise me if the decision to give Abraham a head was partially driven by budgetary reasons (no FX editting needed to continually remove the head).

Though to me Abraham doesn't seem to be as big and bulky when he's got a head.
 
I actually liked the use of giving the Headless Horseman a head. For the short time it was used, I would prefer it be using sparingly or not at all going forward. The problem with Hawley is he is not a good actor. Same writers putting dialog into Tom Mison's mouth and out comes poetry. The words the spew out of Matt Barr's are lifeless and dull. Hopefully he moves on at the end of the season.

Though storyline aside, I woulnd't suprise me if the decision to give Abraham a head was partially driven by budgetary reasons (no FX editting needed to continually remove the head).

Though to me Abraham doesn't seem to be as big and bulky when he's got a head.

I agree, not as menacing with the head.
 
Is Hawley flip flopping between the Mills sisters? It looked like he was blowing Jenny off to get closer to Abby, but now he is getting ticked when Jenny shows another man attention. Perhaps the show runners thought that putting their female lead with a dude giving off a surfer vibe may not be the best idea, but now Jenny might be stuck with him.

In an interview the showrunners said they changed their mind about Hawley and Abby.
 
Though storyline aside, I woulnd't suprise me if the decision to give Abraham a head was partially driven by budgetary reasons (no FX editting needed to continually remove the head).

Good point. Also dramatic reasons -- it's hard to build a lot of stories around a character with no voice or face. There's only so much you can do with a faceless enemy before it gets repetitive, which is why ongoing series tend to humanize them after a while -- Doctor Who introduced Davros as the Daleks' creator, Star Trek personalized the Borg with Locutus and Hugh and the Queen and Seven of Nine, Stargate SG-1 introduced the human-form Replicators, etc. Maybe it makes them less menacing and more ordinary, but it's kind of necessary in the long run.
 
Also, I bet the actor wanted his darn face seen! :)

Well, it's not like Neil Jackson was already playing Headless from the start. There are actually three stuntmen who play Headless in his true form -- Jeremy Owens in general, Richard Cetrone as the double for weapon stunts, and Craig Branham as the horseback double. They didn't hire Jackson until they wanted to show his face.

Which may be why Marc feels that Abraham looks less bulky than Headless. Jackson is probably a bit leaner than the stunt performers.
 
I actually liked the use of giving the Headless Horseman a head. For the short time it was used, I would prefer it be using sparingly or not at all going forward. The problem with Hawley is he is not a good actor. Same writers putting dialog into Tom Mison's mouth and out comes poetry. The words the spew out of Matt Barr's are lifeless and dull. Hopefully he moves on at the end of the season.

Matt Barr was cast in a pilot for TNT so he's probably not sticking around if it gets picked up.
 
What they say sounds okay, but it's not exactly detailed. The alarming thing is that the possibility exists that it will not be renewed. I will surely miss Abby and Ichabod if they are cancelled. :(

At least they seem to understand that the chemistry between Abby and Ichabod is the star of the show.
 
I wonder if that's why the Winter Finale basically wrapped up the premise of the series and got rid of the Big Bad?
 
Anytime I read about Fox "fixing" a show, that usually means it's about to ruined and shortly thereafter, cancelled.

I hope that's not the case here. The first season was surprisingly enjoyable but the second season, so far, feels flat to me. They've definitely had a sophomore slump here.
 
Anytime I read about Fox "fixing" a show, that usually means it's about to ruined and shortly thereafter, cancelled.

That's hardly unique to FOX. You could say the same about pretty much all networks or studios. Executive meddling does sometimes turn out to be a positive, but not in the majority of cases.

Honestly, the only reason SF fans fixate so much on FOX's foibles is that FOX has aired more SF/fantasy shows over the course of its existence than any other network. Ditto for Syfy, which also gets a ton of complaints. They aren't really doing anything that other networks don't; it's just that other networks haven't generally had as many genre shows for us to complain about.
 
I wonder if that's why the Winter Finale basically wrapped up the premise of the series and got rid of the Big Bad?

Everyone thought the premise of Once Upon a Time was to break the curse, sometimes the premise isn't what we think.

However Fox thinking the show being overly serialized as the problem is scary and stupid. The first season was too and a ton of fun. I age up a few into this season because the fun the show had was replaced and is now just lame.
 
Honestly, the only reason SF fans fixate so much on FOX's foibles is that FOX has aired more SF/fantasy shows over the course of its existence than any other network. Ditto for Syfy, which also gets a ton of complaints. They aren't really doing anything that other networks don't; it's just that other networks haven't generally had as many genre shows for us to complain about.
We got a tree with your name on it, Judas! :techman:
 
Anytime I read about Fox "fixing" a show, that usually means it's about to ruined and shortly thereafter, cancelled.

I hope that's not the case here. The first season was surprisingly enjoyable but the second season, so far, feels flat to me. They've definitely had a sophomore slump here.

This is what happens whenever someone new takes over. New boss wants to make his own mark, usually at the expense of the shows cultivated under the previous regime.
 
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