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Size Of The New Enterprise (large images)

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Okay, Have they released any ''official'' ortho views of the NU-E? so we can STOP using the rather inacurate ''EX-ASTRIS'' NU-E? the saucer among other things is wrong on this ''drawing'' of the ship.
 
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I like this picture because is shows how silly the nacels of the new ship are. How in the word do those supports hold them up when they are only at the very end? Also the ship looks like someone squished the whole thing.
Well, it's space so there's no weight to weight down the aft end of the nacelles. So, there's that.

It wasn't built in space.
And? It wasn't designed for Earth. While things are being built, supports, struts, and any number of external "help" are used to keep a structure from collapsing in on itself.
 
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Okay, Have they released any ''official'' ortho views of the NU-E? so we can STOP using the rather inacurate ''EX-ASTRIS'' NU-E? the saucer among other things is wrong on this ''drawing'' of the ship.
The outline in the gizmodo article seems more accurate then other sources I've seen yet.
 
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I like this picture because is shows how silly the nacels of the new ship are. How in the word do those supports hold them up when they are only at the very end? Also the ship looks like someone squished the whole thing.
Well, it's space so there's no weight to weight down the aft end of the nacelles. So, there's that.

It wasn't built in space.

Ever heard of anti-grav units? ;)

Seriously, at a time when high superluminal velocity and shipboard inertia and gravity control are common, why wouldn't gravity control devices be common during construction?
 
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Well, it's space so there's no weight to weight down the aft end of the nacelles. So, there's that.

It wasn't built in space.
And? It wasn't designed for Earth. While things are being built, supports, struts, and any number of external "help" are used to keep a structure from collapsing in on itself.

So the entire ship was beamed into space then? Those supports were not released and then it did not fly into space?

It wasn't built in space.

Ever heard of anti-grav units? ;)

Seriously, at a time when high superluminal velocity and shipboard inertia and gravity control are common, why wouldn't gravity control devices be common during construction?
Anti-grav units, nice. What about when it flies off; the anti-grav units fly along? It uses anti-grav lifting to get into space as opposed to thrusters?
 
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Anti-grav units, nice. What about when it flies off; the anti-grav units fly along? It uses anti-grav lifting to get into space as opposed to thrusters?

Why wouldn't it? For goodness sake, they have to bend space-time just to move the ship through space, and you're objecting to them doing it during lift-off?
 
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Watched the movie twice now, seeing the new Enterprise, it just makes sense that its about the same size as the original refitted Enterprise.. I never thought it was as big or bigger than the Ent-D or Ent-E. Anyway, I hope to see official blueprints of the new Enterprise soon.. I also want an X-ray like blueprint that shows all the decks of the ship..
 
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It looks to me like they kept changing their mind of how big they wanted to be during the production and finally settled on the 2000 feet figure, but now a lot of the details seem to make that feel off.

I can accept that Starfleet decided to pour more funding into R&D and ended up scaling up the basic design of their ship when it was finally built. I'm still not entirely cool with building it on the ground, but as many have said if they can distort space, surely Earth gravity is no big deal. It just seems uneccessarily difficult not to do it, say, on the moon. But whatever. :p
 
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I can accept that Starfleet decided to pour more funding into R&D and ended up scaling up the basic design of their ship when it was finally built. I'm still not entirely cool with building it on the ground, but as many have said if they can distort space, surely Earth gravity is no big deal. It just seems uneccessarily difficult not to do it, say, on the moon. But whatever. :p

Whether or not it can be physically pulled off matters not to me. Whether it is stupid, and the resulting effects on Earth society though, does.
 
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1. The guy running the site is going off old information.
2. ILM and other people in charge of the model have stated other information.

Well, maybe he's not "wrong", but he's not "right" either.
 
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And? It wasn't designed for Earth. While things are being built, supports, struts, and any number of external "help" are used to keep a structure from collapsing in on itself.

So the entire ship was beamed into space then? Those supports were not released and then it did not fly into space?

Ever heard of anti-grav units? ;)
Anti-grav units, nice. What about when it flies off; the anti-grav units fly along? It uses anti-grav lifting to get into space as opposed to thrusters?

We've seen every single ship named Enterprise (Ok, not the C I guess) fly around in gravity wells far greater than Earth sea level. Once the ship is finished the external support would no longer be needed.
In the end of Star Trek we even see this very ship trapped in a gravity well much more powerful than Earth's. Why would you expect it to fall apart in Earth's gravity if it manages to hold together (though just barely) in that one?

To shift gears, I'm surprised there's no mention of
the "Cage" homage shot that pulls back from the Bridge out into space.
Surely that'd be the definitive word on providing ship scale.
 
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I hardly doubt the ship is 700 meters long. Maybe it was the lack of windows but if we consider that those bluey things are windows, the ship can't be that large for sure. Maybe 500 meters
 
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According to Ex Astris, the size of the ship is about 295m. >>> http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/stxi_ships.htm

Ex Astris is just a fan-site... Not authority in this.

You guys all seem to have missed the most official work on the size on size 8 of this thread - According to ILM the Enterprise was scaled to 2000ft in the film. (source: http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/currentissue/Reinventing-Star-Treks-VFX_10905.html ) A bit more than 600m.

Of course they probably made some goofs... but that was the size they were going for.
 
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Very true, but it wasn't on-screen so we still get to argue.
 
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