Not seeing the issue.
You know how the sw*stika was long a symbol of divinity and spiritualism, and in some traditions still is, but generally now represents something much different and evil in the West?
It’s kind of like that, I think.
But it's not necessary. The original concept was for a show set during the present-day. Certainly, Roddenberry didn't conceive of it as a period piece, back in the sixties.
I find that to be over correction. Isis is not ISIS.
I dunno, might be fun to have it take place over the past 60 years starting with the 60's and work real world events into it. Recontextualizing them with Trek backdrops. Maybe show histories as they "really would have gone" if not for our heroes doing their thing. If they really want to swing for the fences, maybe show some things we don't like about today as a result of failures and/or complications of their missions.
I'm seeing 7 seasons and 182 episodes to get us into modern day and ultimately five movies to push us into futures unknown...maybe some addressing world events in real time, as they're released in the decade+ after the series finale.
id definley watch the sequel to strange new worlds
which would have been in a way the streaming rebooted verison of star trek the original series
which would have been in a way the streaming rebooted verison of star trek the original series
Nah, not me. At least not first run. I’d probably binge them. Or that’s what I’d do if not for the weekly Trek zoom in another thread. It's fun talking with other Trek fans even if it’s not about something I’m in love with, and hearing everyone’s different opinions.
What I’d really love is an entirely new crew on an entirely new ship with entirely new aliens, probably sometime in the 25 the century. Basically, what TNG did after TOS. Push us into the future, but not so far where it’s basically pure fantasy à la the 32nd century. We can have older species in there of course, but either as background or in a new context (Klingons as friends vs the enemies they were), or expanding on ones we’ve only seen in the background and that you could go far with.
Most importantly, give me a vision of the future that feels as absolutely real as you can make it, and that is one I'd want to visit and dream about. Who tf wants to live in a post-apocalyptic wasteland? That’s swell in a one-off movie or book or what have you, but Trek is sci-fi’s “flagship” aspirational property: let’s fly.
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It's Star Trek. I said years ago I would watch them stand and read the phone book.
Thanks! For what it's worth, Seven, Isis, and Roberta are major characters in my Eugenics Wars novels as well.
And they have also appeared in books and comics by the likes Dayton Ward, Howard Weinstein, John Byrne, and others.
Over the years, they've kept quite busy in the books and the comics, if not onscreen.
Although Gary Seven was finally mentioned onscreen during Season 2 of PICARD, for the first time since the original episode aired!
I may have squealed aloud . . .
The John Byrne "Assignment: Earth" mini-series from IDW is pretty good.
Five issues spanning 1968-1972.
What's interesting is that a story started in Issue #3, is concluded 300 years later in John Byrne's next mini-series "Leonard McCoy: Frontier Doctor" Issue #3.
Gary Seven also appeared in John Byrne's "New Visions" mini-series concluding another dangling plot thread from his "Assignment: Earth" series.
Five issues spanning 1968-1972.
What's interesting is that a story started in Issue #3, is concluded 300 years later in John Byrne's next mini-series "Leonard McCoy: Frontier Doctor" Issue #3.
Gary Seven also appeared in John Byrne's "New Visions" mini-series concluding another dangling plot thread from his "Assignment: Earth" series.
I agree. This is why I was hoping that Legacy would happen. I've been waiting for an Enterprise based series that would take place post Voyager and Picard S3 is the closest we got.
Dear lord YES!!!!!! That is so essential to the franchise and its amazing to me how this often gets missed. If I want post apocalyptic wasteland I'd watch the Walking Dead or Mad Max.
That train left the station with transporters, warp drive, ESP, cross-species mating and a slew of other stuff that Trek has ran with over the decades.
Heck, the very second pilot involved a crewman getting god-like powers from (checks notes) an energy barrier around the galaxy.
I grew up with Star Trek since I was very, very little. One of the hardest things for me to do was to change my thinking. That it, at the end of the day, is entertainment. It isn't a plausible roadmap to the future. There is nothing realistic about it.
I watched "Balance of Terror" and "The Naked Time" the other night. One wanted me to believe that a blown fuse on the bridge science station would take out the phasers for the entire ship. The other had a critical orbit with Engineering being manned with one person and that there was only one entrance into the area.
TOS is my favorite Trek, but realistic it ain't.
I watched "Balance of Terror" and "The Naked Time" the other night. One wanted me to believe that a blown fuse on the bridge science station would take out the phasers for the entire ship. The other had a critical orbit with Engineering being manned with one person and that there was only one entrance into the area.
TOS is my favorite Trek, but realistic it ain't.
I don’t think so. Trek’s first line famously was “Check that circuit.” There was an attempt at verisimilitude. The stuff that came out of TMP was extraordinary. All those tech manuals and science of Star Trek etc. you can’t say oh Trek has these things so it’s all hooey. It’s about an ethos and perspective and the stories they tell, at any time. I like the ones that try harder to be more realistic, and as a viewer, you can give them anything (time travel) if the rest of it works. But they have to do the work of the rest of it.
Yes but we know very little about "that circuit." The line creates a "workplace realism" but doesn't concern its self with details and explanations.
Tech manuals and the like are just ancillary fluff. Merch for the fans. A lot of thought and effort go into them but all that can be rendered moot by a single line of dialog.
Star Wars’ first two spoken lines were “Did you hear that? They’ve shut down the main reactor!” Clearly presaging a hard sf story…
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Don't fall over, reaching that hard.
So if they'd started the show with the line "I love a good sandwich" it would be a gourmet cooking show?
A hard science fiction show would have been an extraordinarily hard sell in the 1960s, even harder than now. Harlan Ellison was editing Dangerous Visions in 1967. Michael Moorcock was turning New Worlds magazine definitely towards softer sci fi. (and yes I wrote that sentence that way because I have the same sense of humor I had when I was 14.)
In general New Wave was the current trend of science fiction at that time and hard SF was at your local news stand in the covers of Analog if you really really wanted to find it. TOS wasn't attempting to be realistic, it was trying to be entertainment with a space theme.
lol you guys are already so defeatist, so accepting of whatever they roll out and rationalize after the fact. It’s not all the same. It’s the reason Trek fans are different from Wars fans et al. What made Trek great was the realism. Look at what came before, and what came after: everything including Wars was influenced by Trek. Lucas said it himself. Well, I’d like more of that in my next Trek series. Not a love letter to 90’s Trek (though I do love Orville) but a 21st century version of the ethos that made TOS great in its day, TNG great in its, etc. Simply having the name Star Trek on it and trying to appeal to the cool kids, non scifi non trek fans, doesn’t cut it for me. It’s still Star Trek Bruce’s it has the name on it, but it’s also not because it’s trying not to be.
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