Chronology of a 'Rebooted' Star Trek starting from 2026 rather than 1967.

[Jedi Marso]

I can't write worth a shit, so I'll have to be a producer. A well-paid producer!

I don't think I'd be good at writing episodic TV, but I'd love to be the technical advisor / script doctor when it came to things like internal consistency, military bearing and terminology, and maybe getting to pick which ship models get used.

 

[BillJ]

I don't think I'd be good at writing episodic TV, but I'd love to be the technical advisor / script doctor when it came to things like internal consistency, military bearing and terminology, and maybe getting to pick which ship models get used.

I'm just going to be the guy who is in the corner office once a month to rubber stamp everything they want to do. If I hired them, I'm gonna have faith in them to bring my vision to life while I'm on a tropical island.

In Gene, I trust!

 

[BigJake]

I'm not sure it would fit the definition of Trek, but there is the one where there is a diaspora from Earth followed by a civilization-level fall and rebuild, so that by the time the Federation is ready to happen, there are dozens if not hundreds of worlds out there with human populations, and maybe even some separate interstellar empires. Or early space explorers could 'discover' that this happened in antiquity, which is why we suddenly start encountering human civilizations in our rebooted Trek.

Personally one of the big changes I would make to the Trek concept in doing a reboot would be that "humanoid aliens" would mostly just be human cultures far removed from their Earth roots. One could have Ancient Aliens go through the galaxy strewing Homo sapiens around if one really wanted, and "aliens" in this sense could be humans that spent thousands of years evolving around other stars, but going "far future" makes that largely unnecessary for most purposes.

 

[BillJ]

Personally one of the big changes I would make to the Trek concept in doing a reboot would be that "humanoid aliens" would mostly just be human cultures far removed from their Earth roots. One could have Ancient Aliens go through the galaxy strewing Homo sapiens around if one really wanted, and "aliens" in this sense could be humans that spent thousands of years evolving around other stars, but going "far future" makes that largely unnecessary for most purposes.

Either the Preservers or Gary Seven's Aegis group. Probably the later, since they already have the built in reasons to interact and spread humanity.

 

[BillJ]

Maybe humans aren't native to Earth? Maybe we were deposited here and Shepard'd along our development path. Some race could be doing this as an experiment. Different sets of humans were given separate paths.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Maybe humans aren't native to Earth? Maybe we were deposited here and Shepard'd along our development path. Some race could be doing this as an experiment. Different sets of humans were given separate paths.

Then, the question becomes: are we native to Earth? Or are we transplants as well?

 

[fireproof78]

Maybe humans aren't native to Earth? Maybe we were deposited here and Shepard'd along our development path. Some race could be doing this as an experiment. Different sets of humans were given separate paths.

Wouldn't that be the Preservers and the Progenitors who seeded the galaxy? I feel like part of TOS is this idea that the galaxy has had civilizations rise and fall, and that Earth is foraging through a galaxy of history. Sargon's people, Preservers, Charon, and even the ancient tech on the planet in Spock's Brain, plus the android builders on Exo III all point to some interstellar shenanigans going on that might have led to Earth being settled or life guided.

 

[Shawnster]

If this is a complete reboot, is the Eugenics War(s) necessary? Do we need Khan?

I guess people like the familiar callbacks in broad strokes. BSG had the same characters and most in similar roles. Baltar was probably most different in that he was not in command of Cylons or a Base Star. BSG included the Triad game (but mistakenly called it Pyramid), 12 colonies, lost 13th colony...

As for timeline, I read something last century that advised when you pick a future date for your science fiction setting, add 100 years to the date you pick. Seems pretty good advice. Setting a rebooted TOS in the 24th or 25th century won't hurt anything. I think Firefly was even further in the future (like 27th or 28th century).

 

[Nerys Myk]

If this is a complete reboot, is the Eugenics War(s) necessary? Do we need Khan?

No to both.

 

[BillJ]

If this is a complete reboot, is the Eugenics War(s) necessary? Do we need Khan?

Eugenics Wars? Probably. If it can add texture to the universe, why not? Khan? I think he could be kept safely in the background.

I imagine both would be fairly different.

 

[BigJake]

If this is a complete reboot, is the Eugenics War(s) necessary? Do we need Khan?

For my money: I'd be into updates of these ideas that aren't otherwise connected to anything established. One could do real sci-fi with up-to-date science that acknowledges, for example, that nothing we would recognize under the name "eugenics" would create actual superbeings. No to old characters or the literal importation of old concepts.

 

[publiusr]

I do like the idea hinted at in Federation the big war happened after the first colony was established on Alpha Centauri, and that the colony was able to help Earth pick up the pieces and rebuild. At least, I think that was in there. Been a minute since I last read that novel.

I like that as well...with Centauri civilians being Earth's first contact before Vulcan.

I would prefer a Multiverse Chronology...TOS/TAS having ringships, finding stasis boxes early on and less devastation. TSTO shuttles, and no Elon.

SNW stems from "Future's End" on Voyager.. where everything knits back up prior to TNG...NX-01 timeline exists here, and the Kelvin (no Narada).

I think Mr. Sternbach still has his Chronology drawings in storage--I think he showed a side view of the Baton Rouge, which I really liked--it and Kelvin have a similar design language.

The big chore is lining up the near future. There was no SLS or Starship, and the DY-1990s still in the future.

If I had to do a single Chronology book, DY-100 comes after SpaceX Starship, then Daedalus, but the NX-01 and the SNW Discoprise come after the TOS ships (Republic the 3-footer, Constellation Shaw's AMT outline, then FJ).

The 09 reboot I would have as Sternbach's Canopus class, with his drawing coming after Daedalus.

 

[elric428]

FYI. Arriving in November. Star Trek Timelines

 

[BillJ]

FYI. Arriving in November. Star Trek Timelines

Sixty dollars is steep.

 

[mastadge]

I think you can probably get a lot of it without very many changes. I mean we're more or less on track for Star Trek's WWIII. Just change, like, "post-atomic horror" to "climate collapse", push the eugenics wars back a bit and tie it in to tech bro fascism and their quest for immortality, tie all that into the emergence of pro-social, post-nationalist, post-capitalist renaissance from the ashes. . .

 

[FredH]

Eugenics Wars? Probably. If it can add texture to the universe, why not? Khan? I think he could be kept safely in the background.

I imagine both would be fairly different.

If I were rebooting the timeline, I’d remove the Eugenics Wars/WW3. I’d rather a better future build directly from here, not from after an apocalypse.

The way I see it, if an apocalypse actually happens in real life, nobody’s likely to be producing Star Trek (or anything else) after that anyway.

 

[BillJ]

If I were rebooting the timeline, I’d remove the Eugenics Wars/WW3. I’d rather a better future build directly from here, not from after an apocalypse.

I would counter with the idea that people need to have a reason to want to change. Without upheaval, there is no real need to change the road one is on.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

To what extent would AI be involved? Replace the eugenics wars, or code Khan's DNA from scratch?

 

[Returnee BBS]

The time will come when First Contact year gets retconned away from 2063.

I would establish a fictional replacement calendar for BC / AD.

Setting "TOS" around 200 years after First Contact Year would still work.

I'm open to pushing it 300 years after First Contact Year, for the sake of both FASA and ENT

Then set "TNG" 100 years after "TOS."

All the hard sci fi world building happens between now and First Contact Year.

How much of The Expanse do you want to fit in?

Chronologically, how much can you fit in these?

For All Mankind

World War III

Outer space expansion before The Expanse War

The Expanse War

First Contact

Whatever interstellar war is needed to establish the Federation

The "Neo Axanar" era before Discovery's own war

 

[FredH]

I would counter with the idea that people need to have a reason to want to change. Without upheaval, there is no real need to change the road one is on.

See, I love Star Trek, but I don’t think the realistic arc after !Apocalypse Happens! is that people suddenly realize, oh! Let’s build a better worldwide society now! Just like we totally did after World War One!