Shouldn't Sisko Have Been A Commodore?

[James Wright]

Kirk retired a couple of times! When!?
I remember him being retired when the Enterprise-B was launched!

James

 

[Anwar]

In Generations it was stated that he retired from Starfleet sometime between TMP and WOK, but returned.

 

[Praetor]

I think everyone has missed the fact that making the Sisko a Commodore greatly increases his chances of fail. Four out of five TOS Commodores were crazy or incompetent.

Unless I've missed that this fact has already been pointed out...

 

[Captain Fine]

I think everyone has missed the fact that making the Sisko a Commodore greatly increases his chances of fail. Four out of five TOS Commodores were crazy or incompetent.

Unless I've missed that this fact has already been pointed out...

Haha you bring up a good point. Makes you wonder if they bothered to run any psychological tests on these commodores.

I'm half-kidding of course. Decker did see his entire crew killed right? So at least he went nuts for a reason.

 

[Wally]

It gets worse once they become Admirals. :shudders:

 

[Skywalker]

It is pretty strange how, in Starfleet, you seem to fail upward.

 

[Anwar]

The "Incompetent Superior Officer" thing has been a staple of these sorts of stories in all media for long before Trek...

 

[Praetor]

"Fail upwards." I like that.

Somehow I missed this:

There was a more senior person onboard Deep Space Nine. General Martok is clearly identified by Sisko in You are Cordially Invited as the Supreme Commander of the Ninth Fleet (to which Sisko and Deep Space Nine were assigned). Martok was, technically, the Admiral assigned to DS9 and, in a way, Sisko's boss. Sisko just retained command of the Station and continued to serve in a planning capacity.

Martok was in charge of a Starfleet battlegroup? I don't recall this. I remember Martok in charge of Klingon forces that went to battle with Starfleet forces. But I always got the impression that the Ninth Fleet was Admiral Ross's.

They were in a unified alliance at that point, so it's believable that their fleets wouldn't all be separate forces (Klingon and Fed vessels in a battle group together), similarly a Fed Admiral (or Klingon General) could have command of such a unified fleet.

It had never occurred to me that General Martok might have been the commander of the fleet at DS9, but now that it does, it makes a lot of sense and seems very fitting, somehow. Somehow, his status as a "General" often seemed downplayed...

It makes one wonder, though, if the fleets to which were referenced were in fact combined fleets from the beginning, not just Starfleet fleets as has often been assumed?

 

[Anwar]

The names may just be personal preference from the Starfleet Officers' POVs. The 9th Fleet to Sisko and Starfleet can just as easily be the "Armada of Martok" to the Klingons or whatever.

 

[Praetor]

That's a good point. I just wonder if Starfleet has its own numbered fleets, and the fleets discussed in DS9 were the allied ones, or if Starfleet doesn't normally divide its ships into fleets like that.

 

[cybersoldier]

Also there have been some action command didn't approve of and may feel leaving him as captain is alot more controllable