Nope, no commodores since TNG started. Can't remember whether there were any in the last couple of original movies either.
Shouldn't Sisko Have Been A Commodore?
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He returns? 
Spoilers, spoilers I say! 
He returns when Kassidy has their daughter. Not going any further than that except to say he resigns from Starfleet to remain on Bajor.
He should have been promoted to Fleet Captain when he became Ross' adjutant. Made the most sense. He's the most knowledgeable person within Starfleet when it comes to fighting the Dominion. He's also CO of the most important piece of real estate in the Alpha Quadrant. From what I understand, the whole promotion past captain angle was struck down by Berman.
This in itself isn't a reason for promoting an individual - it might be a reason to draft someone more senior in.
If we want to take even the broadest comparison to todays military, Sisko would never be promoted past captain until he'd held other posts - starship command, staff jobs, that sort of thing.
Personally, I think he was too junior to be anything other than a glorified ADC to Ross - did starfleet run out of admirals in a a hurry or something?
Normally, but as a few people have mentioned, there were reasons why they had to keep Sisko in command. Namely, the Bajorans saw him as a religious icon. Also, Sisko (because he was the protagonist in the show, obviously) always turned out to be wiser than anyone the UFP sent to check up on him, so they realized he was the right man for the job.
That's true, but I don't think we can really make that comparison. After all, there is nobody in today's military who has repeatedly (and literally) saved the country from destruction by both spies and foreign threats. If he/she had done so, I don't think our military would force him to be a junior-rear-agitant-to-the-undersecretary-of-latrines like everyone else before promoting him. I think if Starfleet were to weigh Sisko's accomplishments against a lack of staff jobs, the accomplishments would win out. As for starship command, he commanded not only a station, but also a starship (Defiant) and an enormous fleet.
Let's also remember that Starfleet promotes people straight from Captain to Admiral for any number of reasons, most notably as a reward for repeatedly saving the UFP's ass. Kirk comes to mind. They also promote captains to Admiral for getting kidnapped (Pike) and just for coming home (Janeway). Sisko hit the trifecta: he saved the UFP a few times, got kidnapped by Dominatrix Kira, AND came home (after losing the station to the Dominion). Then he came home again (when he decided the station, not Earth, was home, he went back and evicted the Dominion squatters).
I don't understand -- Sisko had been in Starfleet for a couple decades, he was a First Officer until Wolf 359, he designed experimental starships, he was captain of the Defiant, commander of Deep Space Nine, a defacto ambassador to Bajor, he started a human rebellion in the Mirror Universe, exposed changeling spies at Starfleet Command, manipulated the Federation's bitterest enemy (the Romulans) into joining in an alliance with the Federation, and commanded probably the largest fleet in Alpha Quadrant history... "Junior" isn't a word I'd put in the same county as Benjamin Sisko.
The only reason for NOT promoting Sisko that I could agree with isn't an in-story reason: Throughout Star Trek - in every incarnation of the show and films - Captains are the heroes, and Admirals are at best useless appendages, and at worst obstinate bureaucrats. TPTB have created a stigma around the "admiral" and "commodore" ranks and if I'd been writing DS9, I wouldn't have wanted to tarnish a perfectly good captain character with that sort of thing. I'd probably have at least mentioned him turning down or ruling out a promotion (at least in a casual exchange) at some point.
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NO WAY Picard on Enterprise was entitled to be commodore .
Why not? They offered him that rank in S1 of TNG and he turned it down.
As for Berman, can't we find reasons for stuff we don't like in Trek other than immediately blaming him people? Honestly, not bothering to say anything other than "Berman kept this from happening!" makes us look like idiots.
Sisko had only been a Captain for less than 2 years by the time the War began. That would make him a junior Captain by usual standards.
I seem to remember seeing a Bolian with a one-pip Admiral's uniform in "Homefront", which either means he was a Commodore and it was never mentioned or he was a Lower Rear Admiral (which doesn't sound the best as a title...).
As for Berman, can't we find reasons for stuff we don't like in Trek other than immediately blaming him people? Honestly, not bothering to say anything other than "Berman kept this from happening!" makes us look like idiots.
Sisko had only been a Captain for less than 2 years by the time the War began. That would make him a junior Captain by usual standards.
I seem to remember seeing a Bolian with a one-pip Admiral's uniform in "Homefront", which either means he was a Commodore and it was never mentioned or he was a Lower Rear Admiral (which doesn't sound the best as a title...).
I don't see what numbers have to do with anything. He did more as captain in two years than most admirals ever did (as far as we know). It just strikes me as odd to take a character who was entrusted with the era's most important outpost and with the command of a galactic war and imply he's in any way unqualified to wear an extra pip on his collar.
That was not the only reason I gave, you just ignored the other one. And who exactly "more senior" are you going to bring in? He was the expert on the Bajoran sector. As far as him being a "glorified ADC", it was Sisko's plan to retake DS9 that helped save the Alpha quadrant in the first place. The other admirals sitting at the table were overly concerned about Earth.
There were at least two very distinct moments when Sisko should have been promoted. Either when he was made Ross' adjutant or after he managed to retake DS9. I doubt anyone else could have persuaded the worm hole beings to intervene.
I don't think there was really any reason to promote Sisko above Captain because he was under Admiral Ross's command, and they made a great team. Ross was an admiral who wasn't an idiot, a rarity in Star Trek for some reason. I think Sisko did a good job on DS9 and he deserved to be Captain. And in a few years, he'd make Admiral as well.
But you're right, people have gotten promoted to Admiral for lesser deeds.
But you're right, people have gotten promoted to Admiral for lesser deeds.
There was a more senior person onboard Deep Space Nine. General Martok is clearly identified by Sisko in You are Cordially Invited as the Supreme Commander of the Ninth Fleet (to which Sisko and Deep Space Nine were assigned). Martok was, technically, the Admiral assigned to DS9 and, in a way, Sisko's boss. Sisko just retained command of the Station and continued to serve in a planning capacity.
Well, his face IS on the cover, with Kira wearing a starfleet Captain's outfit. So, I'm not revealing too much.
Well what do you know, Starfleet promotes Kira to Captain! I'll nave to read that book and see if she retains the rank on Sisko's return.
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About that...
I thought it was more of a case that Sisko just hasn't decided to return to Starfleet yet to spend time with his family, but that the option is still available to him. Regardless of his future plans, though, he gave Kira his baseball as DS9's new commanding officer.
Martok was in charge of a Starfleet battlegroup? I don't recall this. I remember Martok in charge of Klingon forces that went to battle with Starfleet forces. But I always got the impression that the Ninth Fleet was Admiral Ross's.
They were in a unified alliance at that point, so it's believable that their fleets wouldn't all be separate forces (Klingon and Fed vessels in a battle group together), similarly a Fed Admiral (or Klingon General) could have command of such a unified fleet.
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