You DO know that most of the Odyssey is just Odysseus trapped on Calypso's Island, right? He doesn't really travel much in the story, he spends a lot of it stranded or trapped.
7 years with Calypso, then 1 year with Circe.
You DO know that most of the Odyssey is just Odysseus trapped on Calypso's Island, right? He doesn't really travel much in the story, he spends a lot of it stranded or trapped.
7 years with Calypso, then 1 year with Circe.
But the goal is still trying to get home.
Earth, or even just Federation space in general, makes sense as the home goal only if a majority of the crew is from there. A couple stragglers along the journey who like the idea of the Federation want to go there thinking it's better than the Delta Quadrant, sure. But if half or most of the crew isn't from the Alpha Quadrant? That's a big difference.
Earth, or even just Federation space in general, makes sense as the home goal only if a majority of the crew is from there. A couple stragglers along the journey who like the idea of the Federation want to go there thinking it's better than the Delta Quadrant, sure. But if half or most of the crew isn't from the Alpha Quadrant? That's a big difference.
TBF, I don't think I'm alone in hoping that there'd be some wrap-up when Our Heroes reached Earth. Which is to say, I would have been fine with them reaching Earth before the final episode and then having an episode or a few episodes of resolution.
And potentially makes for a more interested story. About whether or not the AQ people will "Go Native" or not the longer they're stuck in the DQ. Especially if a way home isn't readily apparent.
Maybe more interesting, maybe not. Considering the network VOY got, and how it would have gotten it no matter the concept due to it launching UPN... I lean toward it not being interesting.
Since Voyager was in a constant state of traveling . . . no, I don't think the series should have featured more recurring Delta Quadrant characters.
Also, since Voyager's travels were always about trying to get home, I find it odd that one would criticize about the starship traveling to a new location, where it would stay for a day or two. Such a complaint makes no sense to me, considering the show's premise.
Well, yes....UPN's stagnation and incompetence is well known around here. I'm just offering ideas of how to make Voyager a show with more of its own identity instead of the TNG wannabe that UPN wanted. Frankly, I'd be more interested in a AQ group that are trapped in a new area of space without any major option to go home and struggle with whether they should just adopt the DQ as their new home, or not.
I had other ideas for external hooks, like making the Equinox crew the first villains of the show.
Because frankly...the whole "Lost in Space" thing is boring. I always felt an external hook beyond that was needed.
Could've trapped them backwards in space and time, I suppose. Even if you get home, it's not the home you know (and for reasons time travel isn't the cinch it is in TVH; perhaps you're in a parallel universe where it doesn't work.)
Or... they get trapped in another galaxy. No way the crew would get home in their lifetime, so they stay there.
I'm not super interested in explaining my reasoning to you at this time... So, agree to disagree.
Actually, I'll give a Tl;dr on this: Space is huge, and many space empires in Trek are large enough that it's going to take more than "a day or two" to pass through the whole thing. It's just not realistic, especially at the speeds Voyager was established as traveling at.
Another thing I wanted to mention:The reason why the Borg didn't show up or even get mentioned until Season 3 of Voyager was because the writers actually forgot that the Borg were in the Delta Quadrant when they were making the show.
Here, knowing that they're there, they can be incorporated into the show from the start without really showing them much.
An idea I had is that the Caretaker was generating an energy field that disrupts the Borg's Collective Mind and this has kept the "bubble" of space Borg-free for thousands of years. The Borg know there's SOMETHING in there but can never go in without losing control of any ships they send in. Once the Caretaker is dead, the energy of the field begins to fade and will eventually fully run out in a few years at which point the Borg will invade.
Voyager knows this and the crew are divided on whether they should try to warn everyone so they can make a run for it, or if they should find some way to reactivate the Caretaker's protection in the time they have. Meanwhile the Borg are slowly becoming aware that they can enter the area now, leading to one massive confrontation.
I figure the best resolution would be that they manage to reactive/re-energize the Caretaker's "Borg Nullifier" at the last moment after the Borg have trashed their way through whatever defenses the place has and this annihilates their entire invasion force...but it also means that if Voyager ever tries to leave it they'll be wide open to Borg attacks. So they have to stay inside the "Borg Free Zone" from then on.
D'oh!
Impossible, Berman era writers never forget!
I don't remember TNG ever mentioning that the Borg were from the Delta Quadrant.
In "Descent" there was a graphic that said the Transwarp Conduit the Borg used went to the Delta Quadrant.
I was fine with Our Heroes not significantly encountering the Borg until S4. I don't see Voyager realistically having much of a chance if they'd encountered them earlier (granted, they shouldn't have had much of a chance even encountering them when they did...), and for the knowledgeable viewer this created a bit of suspense, especially starting with "Blood Fever" when Our Heroes encountered the first evidence that they might soon encounter the Borg.
More cynically, if one feels the show ended up overly centered around the Borg, having Our Heroes encounter them earlier would only have made that problem worse.
More cynically, if one feels the show ended up overly centered around the Borg, having Our Heroes encounter them earlier would only have made that problem worse.
If they'd been more like the first villains and only show up in that story in the first or second season, then not shown up again afterwards, I think it could've worked.
Starts things on a Bang and all.
Given what we got, I don't think I could trust the VOY folks to pull the Borg out of the toy chest and know when it was time to put them away again.
And that was my point: That goal should have been thrown out the window after the first season. Because it basically devolved into 'what's going to happen this episode where it looks like the crew finds a means to get home only to find out that it won't work.' And that's if they even bother to do episodes where they find a possible way home. The 'get back to Earth' thing was highly overrated and should not have been the primary focus of the show.
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