Should they bring back Janeway?

And what the fuck has this to do with my post? I was actually coming to kimc's defense in pointing out that she's a normal poster around here and therefore shouldn't be held to a higher standard in her posts here as Therin's post seemed to indicate.

But why let the actual content of a post come in the way of yet another drive-by shooting, heh?

 

Sorry if you are offended. I thought I was agreeing with you. My bad.

 

Want my theory? I gotta warn you -- it's a doozy.

Allyn's Crackpot Batman Theory.

Grant Morrison would probably do that. The question is if DC's higher-ups would let him do that....

Of course, this doesn't have anything to do with Janeway pushing up daisies.

 

I really like Allyn's theory... aside from that, I'm sure it'll be only a temporary thing. But what about just letting Bruce move on, Jack Knight style?

Indeed. It's understandable that it rankles though IMO.

That's brilliant!


Who's Janeway again?

 

It's not happening - Dido believes that only Clark Kent can be Superman and Bruce Wayne can be Batman, every interview he does reinforces that point. So when they do a 'stand-in' story, it's simply to show why, in the long-run, it has to be Bruce or Clark. So any story has to return to that with little or no twists.

 

Pretty interesting theory, though. I'd love to see it.. but don't think it'll ever happen, for just that reason.

 

Would you say that applies to Janeway fans too?

 

Of course. But it's our party that you're crashing, not the other way around.

If I went into the VOY forum and told everyone there that Janeway was dead and that it was what Voyager should've been all along, and that anyone that didn't instantly go buy the books was clearly a bad Trek fan and didn't deserve to have an opinion, then you might have a point.

 

And as much as I appreciate AuntKate's comments I also appreciate yours.

As for the "angry fanboys" epithet it doesn't matter whether or not I have certain individuals in mind when using it. The important thing is I will never call an individual on this board that because that would be making it about the poster rather than the post. Also, with my Italian temper if I decided I really wanted to flame someone "angry fanboy" would probably be the nicest thing in that post.

Besides, alongside some of the insulting nicknames for Janeway fans in TrekLit over the past year "angry fanboys" is looking pretty tame.

 

Knock yourself out. If that's your opinion then you should have the right to state it here, the Voyager forum or anywhere else on the board for that matter. However, if you called anyone who didn't agree with you an idiot I'd slap a flaming warning on you so fast your head would be spinning for days. Also, if you went into every thread and posted "Janeway sucks" you'd be spamming and I'd be warning.

Ever been to a football game where the home team was losing and fans were leaving early? Ever hear those fans being boo'd by other fans who thought they weren't "loyal enough"? Perhaps those leaving early just wanted to beat the traffic. Or perhaps they just cared SO much about their home team it was too painful to continue watching. I guess it's just a matter of perspective...

 

Sure, anyone has the right to voice their opinion. They don't need to be rude when they do it, though.

 

Agreed.

 

You know I’ve said this before and I will say this again and again, so long as this forum and threads are simple fans discussing books and or characters, I wouldn’t care what any of you said or any of you did. But the moment that Pocket Books Authors post here and Pocket Book Editors post here, then this forum becomes something different.

The appearance of Trek Authors and Trek Editors gives this forum an official status whether you protest or not; because these people do have some influence, they are voices that get heard. We very simply want to make sure that we are heard too. You cannot have it both ways, you all either exclude “official” comment and influence, or you allow everyone to have a say.

The true point is not who is buying books, but how many more books could be sold if Pocket Books listened to other fans, not just the posters in Trek Lit. And if you don’t think that this is critical you are the ones with your heads in the sand. Book stores are going broke, publishers are not making money. The difference is that not too long ago publishers were not expected to make money (they were tax write offs for big corporations). All that has changed, what may seem like pretty good sales to you all, are not keeping publishers afloat. I am speaking of all publishers, of the scramble for ideas that make publishing cheaper, ideas that cut costs, because frankly the majority of people don’t read novels at all.

Many knowledgeable people are predicting that very soon paperback books will be a thing of the past, replaced by e-readers and Kindles. Guys your world is changing and it’s changing at the speed of light almost. Before you all decide that some of us don’t know what we are talking about, go take a look around you the evidence is easy to see. What we don’t want is for Janeway and Janeway fans to be lost in the implosion.

Brit

 

I think, in the future, we should refer to these hostile pro-Pocket Book posters as Militant Pocket Book Fans or MPBF. They seem to enjoy the acronym MJF, and what's good for the goose is good for the gander, I've always heard!

 

Just one more piece about just how fast your world is changing.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/04/26/100426fa_fact_auletta

Brit

 

The book as in "printed pages fastened along one side and encased between protective covers". Cinema, TV, Internet and DVDs are not a new technology replacing "the paperback book". An e-book on a Kindle is.

 

I don't know, I just wanted to be a smartass about semantics and definitions.

mp3 and iTunes got CD labels in big trouble, because the medium changed (and with it the customer's power was increased). Same will happen to printed books sooner or later.