Nope, she wasn’t.
Should there be a Captain Pike spin-off from DSC?
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Precisely so. There is this insistence that leads be likable and that isn't always appropriate for the story being told.
Thus far, I think that Burnham's story is far more interesting than is given credit for, because of reckless labeling.
That is inaccurate on both counts.
but Burnham isn't always right, that's the whole plot of season 1 goddammit!
Also: if she weren't female, would she still be a know-it-all? I'm just wondering, because I seldomly hear or read that description, when it comes to male characters.
Yep, she was.
Saru, Mirror Lorca, Mirror Georgiou, Prime Georgiou from beyond, Sarek, Tilly, even Stamets at times. Voq basically aborted his mission because of Burnham.
I'll admit up front I dislike the term Mary Sue, I think it is overused, and generally wrongfully used, as it is in this context. She's not THAT. Opinions are legion, but yours is wrong, regarding this.
As she's to some degree the lens around which the action occurs, she doesn't have to have extremes of character to draw the viewer in or make them fall in love or want to have their babies or have a love-hate thing or all the other stuff that can be said about popular characters. They have other characters for that.
Burnham is a flawed character that happens to be extremely good at many things, much of that from what is being revealed as an extremely competitive upbringing as an orphan on an alien world. The Federation has billions of citizens. If Starfleet is a desirable location for some of their most qualified people, then they'd HAVE to be very good at things.
She's not always right (You mention her betrayal of Georgiou yourself. Or her killing T'Kuvma against orders), she's not revered by everyone (Did you miss the whole exchange with Connolly that everyone has been freaking out about? Or how long it took the crew to regain their trust in her?), and that's not all that constitutes a Mary Sue character.
Who else in Trek was a know it all? Data? Spock? Seven of Nine? Q? They pretty much did know it all.
Did you even watch Season 1?
Wesley was more of a Mary Sue than Burnham. Apparently he was even an author insert of Gene so he fits the term even better than she does.
Who is Connolly?
Assaulting Georgiou and killing T'Kuvma were eventually shown to be medal worthy.
No they weren’t. We’re you even paying attention to the show?
Connolly is a character from season 2
I agree but this is not about Wesley, who at least got humbled in the end. Its about Burnham.
Well Burnham isn’t worse than him.
Mary Sue
noun
- (originally in fan fiction) a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.
"she was not a ‘strong woman’ so much as an insufferable Mary Sue"
Disagree.
And Burnham has flaws and weaknesses, so she isn’t a Mary Sue.
Yes, unfortunately.
Yet everyone is singing her praises by the end of Season 1. Mutiny and causing martyrdom be damned.
Why are you here if you hate the show? Seems like a waste of free time.
That’s called character development.
Can we get back on the topic of Pike please before a mod closes this thread?
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