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Should Riker be inserted into every Trek episode of ever show?

Jayson1

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In the "Enterprise" series final we saw him watching old events of the ship Enterprise to help him make a choice on what to do about Admiral Pressman. Since they did that why not go all "Observer" on the Trek universe and make it all pone big holodeck adventure after adventure that Riker has created to learn more lessons on how to deal with stuff. Each time you watch a old episode you can have a "Where's Waldo" moment where you try and spot Riker in the show. This would also explain any canon issues people would have with any show since it would be Riker not knowing the details or simply making small mistakes in his holodeck re-creations.


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No.

This would also explain any canon issues people would have with any show since it would be Riker not knowing the details or simply making small mistakes in his holodeck re-creations.

Nothing Riker does (or doesn't do) on the holodeck would have any impact on historical events in the Trek universe, or universe's. Riker and any companions are in a closed room interacting with the ship's computer, that's it.

The majority of canon issue people perceive with the show usually boil down to a lack of imagination on that individual's part. Something on the show wasn't mashed into a bland paste and presented to them on a spoon and to understand the "canon issue" would required them to think.

Real life has "canon issue" too. A event in your life doesn't make sense resulting in confusion. Someone speaking to you accidentally misspeaks, or they themselves are simple wrong. Record are inaccurate. A dozen people can view the same factual information and come to a dozen different conclusions.

The person who made Elvis Presley's tombstone got it wrong, Gary Mitchell did the same with Jim Kirk's. No canon issue required.
 
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Barclay, maybe. Riker was an ambitious (sorta) workaholic who wouldn't have time to spend on 800 different holo-adventures throughout his career. Other than the NX-01, his holodeck experience was limited to things he enjoyed (1940s jazz scenes) that placed him in center stage and not as an observer.

TATV presented the situation with Riker as unique to his current dilemma. He had been racked with guilt over the deceit from the mutiny and was escaping into an observer historical program. When he got his courage at the end of the episode, I felt that he wouldn't use this tactic again.
 
Barclay, maybe. Riker was an ambitious (sorta) workaholic who wouldn't have time to spend on 800 different holo-adventures throughout his career.
Ooh, that gave me an idea. What if the Riker framing story wasn't Riker at all, but Barclay role-playing Riker in his own holodeck simulation for therapeutic purposes? That would make the NX-01 story a simulation within a simulation....
 
Ooh, that gave me an idea. What if the Riker framing story wasn't Riker at all, but Barclay role-playing Riker in his own holodeck simulation for therapeutic purposes? That would make the NX-01 story a simulation within a simulation....

Directed by Christopher Nolan!
 
Episodes like "Spock's Brain" and "Threshold" can be kept as is, but with this reaction shot of Riker inserted over and over
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My way to explain away differences is this. If you read different historical texts from around the same period, there will be small differences in the texts, because every historian applies his own perspective to the events that happened.

I see it like this, like different historians writing about a fictional history. There are stylistic and factual discrepancies because it's each different historian's belief about what happened.
 
My way to explain away differences is this. If you read different historical texts from around the same period, there will be small differences in the texts, because every historian applies his own perspective to the events that happened.

I see it like this, like different historians writing about a fictional history. There are stylistic and factual discrepancies because it's each different historian's belief about what happened.

And the historian who recorded Kirk's era was high on LSD, and the historian for Burnham's era was just terrible at his job.
 
TOSR certainly dropped the ball by not inserting Frakes into a TOS episode.
frakes should have done a hitchcock and placed himself into the discovery episode (excuse yourself?) that he directed. in the background of a scene. no dialog. just there if youre paying attention.

kind of cool.
 
I'm thinking no. It would be like 'Riker spamming' and those tedious memes that seem to be the passive aggressive repertoire of a limited imagination. A little Riker goes a long way.
 
They need to insert him into episodes of TNG. Like that Menage a Troi scene, just have him in the corner somewhere even if (especially if) the original Riker is predominately in the scene.

It's what Barclay did, and it's what I would do. Historical reenactment can be fun for a while, but the real money (er...) is in controlling and manipulating close friends and colleagues.
 
Frakes can be in the next Abrams-universe movie.

When people (sigh yet again) get blown out into space through a hole in the ship, Frakes can be one of them.
 
If we're going the holodeck simulation route, I think it should be current Jonathan Frakes playing Season One/Two Will Riker :lol:
 
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