No. Just . . . no.
should oral sex be depicted in star trek: discovery? hear me out
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Stargate SG-1 had full frontal nudity in its very first episode. Then they decided "actually, we don't need to do this" and oddly gained dozens of seasons without it.
Not sure that's causation.
Wasn't the first season on Showtime? I thought it was meant to be "edgier" in the beginning.
Kor
Back on the original topic, NO. There's no point in it besides salaciousness. It doesn't advance the story in any way. The writers need to come up with something compelling to keep our attention, not turn the show into Spunk Trek: Fellatio Contact.
It would have to be used as setup for a later scene:
Saru: "Captain, there is a potential overload in the auxiliary power relay on Deck 13. I can't deconfigure it from the bridge."
Burnham: "Sir, if we can get someone down there, they can fish the biometric material out of the auxiliary relay with some sort of small vacuum hose."
Saru: "The overload is mere minutes away. We don't have time to fabricate such a device. I see no option, and sense danger. We must abandon ship."
Lorca: "Perhaps if there was someone skilled enough in sucking the material from the narrow relay. It would have to be very precise, and very thorough. It's too bad Landry isn't here anymore. Cadet Tilly, maybe?"
Burnham: "I don't think so, Captain."
Stamets: "I'll do it. I've practiced for this."
Saru: "Captain, there is a potential overload in the auxiliary power relay on Deck 13. I can't deconfigure it from the bridge."
Burnham: "Sir, if we can get someone down there, they can fish the biometric material out of the auxiliary relay with some sort of small vacuum hose."
Saru: "The overload is mere minutes away. We don't have time to fabricate such a device. I see no option, and sense danger. We must abandon ship."
Lorca: "Perhaps if there was someone skilled enough in sucking the material from the narrow relay. It would have to be very precise, and very thorough. It's too bad Landry isn't here anymore. Cadet Tilly, maybe?"
Burnham: "I don't think so, Captain."
Stamets: "I'll do it. I've practiced for this."
The nudity in the premiere was enforced by Showtime to fit in with their brand, and was immediately dropped by the showrunners after that obligatory first and only nude scene. The showrunners weren't trying to be edgy at all and wished that they hadn't had to include it.
So presumably, the removal of the nudity from the "Final Cut" DVD of Children of the Gods was actually perfectly in line with the showrunners' original concept.
Kor
Star Trek depicts war and violence, genocide, murder, all manner of abuses, mental illness, inequities, racism and bigotry, intolerance, seduction, yet when it comes to sex some people act like it's time to do some pearl clutching ...
Victorian Era 19th century prudery is boring and one dimensional especially when projecting it into a science-fictional 23rd century.
Victorian Era 19th century prudery is boring and one dimensional especially when projecting it into a science-fictional 23rd century.
Star Trek depicts war and violence, genocide, murder, all manner of abuses, mental illness, inequities, racism and bigotry, intolerance, seduction, yet when it comes to sex some people act like it's time to do some pearl clutching ...
Victorian Era 19th century prudery is boring and one dimensional especially when projecting it into a science-fictional 23rd century.
Because the inclusion of nudity in this context is never with mature intent. It is clearly there as erection fodder and nothing else. All those other topics are in there either to drive a fundamental plot-line, to generate an allegory, or are discussed out in the open in a mature way.
Star Trek has always face planted when it comes to sex. Always.
Well of course however ST is now TV-MA on a subscription streaming service, so there's a lot of possibility than can be explored that is off limits to regular broadcast t.v. GR is dead, the TNG to ENT era producers have for the most part moved on so why not have something as fundamental as sex depicted with maturity instead of campy censor pleasing alliteration.
I'm sure you didn't mean anything malicious by it, but let's be careful with connecting the theme of this thread with jokes about homosexuals.
Gene would have loved to do a Trek "porno".
I think the main reason is most of us don't much want it anyway
I think seeing a sex act also would be to much. I wouldn't mind a reference though. To me it isn't all that much different from Riker going to the holodeck in "The Perfect Mate" or Rom giving himself oomax. In fact when you watch lots of Disney or Pixar they always seem to get away with some hidden, adult stuff that goes over the heads of kids.
Also while PG-13 has increased how violent the show can be it is still within the bounds of PG-13 and I think some fans think it's more graphic than it is because Trek has mostly been PG. To me sex sort of works like that as well. You can get away with a few more references maybe someone fooling around undercovers but you still won't or shouldn't be seeing stuff you will see on HBO.
The big question though is when it comes to aliens. I think we all know you can get away with more with aliens. You can kill or torture them, more and I figure you can even have more graphic sex with them. That is because aliens aren't real and watching a klingon get stabbed is different than watching a human getting stabbed. It always feels more graphic when humans are involved.
Jason
They were like that with cussing as well. I think Jack said "Shit" only once in the season final even though you would think they could be talking like sailors the entire time, and it would even make sense because you were dealing with people in the Air Force.
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