It was just my general thoughts on the situation. I quoted you because you provided the link.
Should Harry Mudd actor Rainn Wilson return for Strange New Worlds?
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It was just my general thoughts on the situation. I quoted you because you provided the link.
Wilson himself disagrees with this statement - which is vapid and ignorant ... and completely lacking the awareness and self-reflection and education represented in Wilson's apology.
Thank you for sharing that -- I hadn't heard he had apologized. I'm delighted that he has and that he has the good grace to keep learning and growing, as we all must keep doing. I'd be very happy to see him return to Star Trek now.
Ooooo. I really like that idea!
Nah no more Mudd. Snw has set their version as Angel so thats enough of a recurring pirate /con type character. Let's see more new characters.
They went to far basically making Mudd a murderer. He was never that in tos.
He was going to allow the Enterprise to crash into Rigel if he didn’t get his way in “Mudd’s Women”.
I dunno, Leo Walsh passed away "unexpectedly". Seems suspicious.
Dude was not a nice man in TOS. He had Norman hijack the Enterprise with a bomb.
He was absolutely willing to murder to suit his ends in TOS. Discovery just didn't couch it in campy acting.
"Did Harry Mudd murder Leo Walsh?" is my favorite unresolvable Trek ambiguity. Well, maybe second-favorite after "Was Kestra Troi actually eaten by a wolf?"
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I don’t really buy in to the view that because we didn’t see somebody take action during the time period covered by one show they couldn’t have taken an action in the time period covered by another show.
Was that ever the 'real' Mudd though, or one of his droids. One confirmed droid in the Short Trek was wearing the same coat 'he' wore on TOS.
Perhaps, in a way. I wonder if Harry Mudd is just a pseudonym Leo Walsh created as cover.
Either way, he needs to, along with Angel and Sybok, to be continually brought back as one of the major antagonists secretly pulling strings to stir the pot between all the superpowers during this time frame, imo.
Harry was never into galaxy-wide schemes.
He was always about just lining his own pockets.
He and Angel at best, would be 'Frenemies' constantly conniving behind each others back.
Plus I doubt Sybok at that point in time would approve of Angel associating with anybody he'd probably consider a lowlife thief.
Oh, not this
again...For the last
ing time, Harry was not a human trafficker. In "Mudd's Women", he operated basically as a 23rd-century Asa Mercer.
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Technicalities… perhaps not a ‘human trafficker’, it was never specified which species his women were. Let’s settle for ‘alien trafficker’. I can’t remember if he traffics ‘androids’ yet. ‘Android trafficker’ *might* be ok as long as they were not classed as sentient androids aka as defined in ‘Measure of a Man’. Maybe they can do an episode where Mudd/Leo Walsh is put on trial for ‘android trafficking’ and a Maddox ancestor has to defend him in court. This character can be played by Brian Brophy? Or Brent Spiner.
"Trafficking" is a loaded word that does not apply here.
If the women were held against their will, or forced to perform actions which they would not normally do, then that would be trafficking. But that's not what happened. All Harry did was put women who wanted husbands, in touch with men who wanted wives. That is not trafficking.
If the women were held against their will, or forced to perform actions which they would not normally do, then that would be trafficking. But that's not what happened. All Harry did was put women who wanted husbands, in touch with men who wanted wives. That is not trafficking.
But he was also supplying an addictive drug to these ladies. This could have given Mudd a form of control over his women, especially if the women were vulnerable in the first place? They were obviously ‘reliant’ on the drug that he was providing to them. They would have still needed the drug when they had been given to husbands, unless their husbands would learn to love them for who they truly are eventually?
As for Mudd’s androids, Brent Spiner *could* be involved… perhaps a Soong helped to design them? Maddox could still be involved though if it ever went to court…
Which they knew about and were fully complicit in the scheme.
And, IIRC, not even Harry knew that the drug was fake.
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