Is that known 100% for sure, though?Franklin isn’t a Prime ship, no matter what people say.
Is that known 100% for sure, though?Franklin isn’t a Prime ship, no matter what people say.
The Franklin dates to before Enterprise. It may not have been mentioned, but it was clearly before Nero’s intervention.Franklin isn’t a Prime ship, no matter what people say.
I’m talking about the NCC-1000 Bonaventure from the ships of the line calendar a few years back. Not the TAS one.
Then your argument is invalid.Franklin isn’t a Prime ship, no matter what people say.
Except it isn’t.I think it’s safe to assume that the JJVerse is not a altered timeline but a different universe. One where they use water for their warp engines and all ships have breweries in them.
The Franklin simply doesn’t work in the Prime as they went from the warp 2 testbed to Henry Archer’s warp 5 engine. If you include the novels there were in fact 2 different warp 5 engines being designed with the other being added to a Daedalus ship, correcting the continuity errors with that one.
Coolant. In "Yesterday's Enterprise" and Generations, the Enterprise-D is ultimately destroyed by a coolent leak in the warp core, which manifests by the pipe behind the core itself angrily belching steam which fills engineering.I think it’s safe to assume that the JJVerse is not a altered timeline but a different universe. One where they use water for their warp engines and all ships have breweries in them.
Is that the same novels which pretend the Romulan ships exploded off-screen immediately after "Minefield" in order to fix continuity regarding cloaking devices and switched to low-tech TOS interfaces and technology to prevent Romulan tampering?The Franklin simply doesn’t work in the Prime as they went from the warp 2 testbed to Henry Archer’s warp 5 engine. If you include the novels there were in fact 2 different warp 5 engines being designed with the other being added to a Daedalus ship, correcting the continuity errors with that one.
They were doing that fine already without it being a separate universe.It means they could do things without worrying about continuity.
Aaanywho, back to the original topic, no matter how canon discovery is, I sort of laugh to myself when they make the enterprise look...well, honestly, more awesome and in 10 years its going to look like it did in the 60's; what, did starfleet have budget problems and they had to downgrade some ships?
I doubt it.well, honestly, more awesome and in 10 years its going to look like it did in the 60's
I think it’s safe to assume that the JJVerse is not a altered timeline but a different universe.
It has cracked me up for a while now that the 1960's design is entirely TOO DATED. But so much of the design language of even the JJ-prise is rooted in TMP from the advanced age of 1979.
To be fair, Disco is actually moving farther away from that.
It's weird to hear people arguing that the Franklin couldn't have existed because it wasn't mentioned in Star Trek: Enterprise, when people used to argue that Star Trek: Enterprise couldn't have existed because it wasn't mentioned in the previous shows and movies. If one can accept the retcon of ENT as a whole, one should also be able to accept the retcon of the Franklin.
It's been a while since I watched Beyond,, but I think it was mentioned that the Franklin was the only Warp 4 ship that Starfleet ever made, and it was a prototype ship, just meant to test the Warp 4 engine, and then Starfleet went right into the Warp 5 engine.
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