Ships of the Line 2014 - REVIEWS

[Markonian]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

Off on a slight tangent, it would be good to gather images from the novelverse together somewhere. I know there's stuff around, but an getting pictures of both ships and characters from the books together in one place would be a great resource.

Great idea! Probably the easiest way is to open a specific thread, something like "Picture the Novelverse!". Do you feel up to it?

 

[DimesDan]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

If they did a calendar with images of novelverse characters, I would buy that thing in an instant. Especially if they had Vanguard, Titan and Voy-R 2.0 characters.

Off on a slight tangent, it would be good to gather images from the novelverse together somewhere. I know there's stuff around, but an getting pictures of both ships and characters from the books together in one place would be a great resource.

I'd be particularly interested in Vanguard, The Voyager Fleet and ships from the Enterprise novels, particularly Christopher's RotF.

Someone a few years ago made a thread in Trek Art trying to design the cargo ship from The Buried Age which looked pretty cool, but I think the posted gave up because of the level of nitpickiness from Christopher.

 

[DEWLine]

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I was one of a couple of people who tried working out a design and deck plans for Cleopatra's Needle, the private research vessel captained by Picard in that novel. I'll admit to being severely distractable by other priorities closer to home at the time. It's a project that I want to get back to as time allows. Christopher's "nitpickiness" - both he and I would choose another word for it - was and remains entirely understandable.

I will happily support a novelverse-themed edition of the Ships of the Line Calendar. Hoping it happens in my lifetime...

 

[Christopher]

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^Yeah, it's too bad the "design Cleopatra's Needle" pseudo-competition fell by the wayside. I'd still like to see what Mark Rademaker had in mind for it.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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I'd love to see talented fans' ideas of what unseen Treklit ships might look like. The 78+ deck medical supership Recovery, the mile-long Inaieu and the timeship Phoenix (from Recovery, The Wounded Sky and War of the Prophets, respectively) come to mind.

 

[DEWLine]

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Agreed regarding Inaieu!

 

[Relayer1]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

Off on a slight tangent, it would be good to gather images from the novelverse together somewhere. I know there's stuff around, but an getting pictures of both ships and characters from the books together in one place would be a great resource.

Great idea! Probably the easiest way is to open a specific thread, something like "Picture the Novelverse!". Do you feel up to it?

How would people like it set up ?

Without wanting to overcomplicate it, there's ships and characters - would you want separate threads ?

How would we separate 'accepted' images such as used on novel covers, Memory Beta stuff or authors sketches from speculative fan produced stuff ?

Should group images by asking people to post on a particular subject (i.e. The Voyager Fleet) before moving onto another topic ?

 

[Markonian]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

Great idea! Probably the easiest way is to open a specific thread, something like "Picture the Novelverse!". Do you feel up to it?

How would people like it set up ?

Without wanting to overcomplicate it, there's ships and characters - would you want separate threads ?

How would we separate 'accepted' images such as used on novel covers, Memory Beta stuff or authors sketches from speculative fan produced stuff ?

Should group images by asking people to post on a particular subject (i.e. The Voyager Fleet) before moving onto another topic ?

I agree with wish to not overcomplicate it. As such, I suggest to focus on the artistic effort rather than imposing limits. Mix it, baby!

 

[Relayer1]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

Great idea! Probably the easiest way is to open a specific thread, something like "Picture the Novelverse!". Do you feel up to it?

How would people like it set up ?

Without wanting to overcomplicate it, there's ships and characters - would you want separate threads ?

How would we separate 'accepted' images such as used on novel covers, Memory Beta stuff or authors sketches from speculative fan produced stuff ?

Should group images by asking people to post on a particular subject (i.e. The Voyager Fleet) before moving onto another topic ?

I agree with wish to not overcomplicate it. As such, I suggest to focus on the artistic effort rather than imposing limits. Mix it, baby!

That's two votes for just starting it and leaving it to run - I'm the other one !

I'll await any other comments and probably start a thread sometime in the next 24 hours.

 

[DEWLine]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

July: The NCC-76890 looks like it's set in-between the Ambassador- and Galaxy-classes but more advanced than both. While it is certainly good-looking, I wouldn't think Starfleet releases an exact intermediary between two flagship classes. Maybe we could learn more about that ship if it receives a cameo in a novel.

You're referring to the design in this thread, I believe?

 

[JD]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

Great idea! Probably the easiest way is to open a specific thread, something like "Picture the Novelverse!". Do you feel up to it?

How would people like it set up ?

Without wanting to overcomplicate it, there's ships and characters - would you want separate threads ?

How would we separate 'accepted' images such as used on novel covers, Memory Beta stuff or authors sketches from speculative fan produced stuff ?

Should group images by asking people to post on a particular subject (i.e. The Voyager Fleet) before moving onto another topic ?

I agree with wish to not overcomplicate it. As such, I suggest to focus on the artistic effort rather than imposing limits. Mix it, baby!

I'd go that way too. I say just let people post whatever they want as long as it comes from the books and isn't too inappropriate.

 

[Lego Thrawn]

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Glad it's finally out... for a while, there was word there wouldn't be a 2014 SotL. Glad they changed their minds! Gonna get mine this week.

 

[Relayer1]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

How would people like it set up ?

Without wanting to overcomplicate it, there's ships and characters - would you want separate threads ?

How would we separate 'accepted' images such as used on novel covers, Memory Beta stuff or authors sketches from speculative fan produced stuff ?

Should group images by asking people to post on a particular subject (i.e. The Voyager Fleet) before moving onto another topic ?

I agree with wish to not overcomplicate it. As such, I suggest to focus on the artistic effort rather than imposing limits. Mix it, baby!

I'd go that way too. I say just let people post whatever they want as long as it comes from the books and isn't too inappropriate.

The thread's up - could do with some posts !

 

[sojourner]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

July: The NCC-76890 looks like it's set in-between the Ambassador- and Galaxy-classes but more advanced than both. While it is certainly good-looking, I wouldn't think Starfleet releases an exact intermediary between two flagship classes. Maybe we could learn more about that ship if it receives a cameo in a novel.

You're referring to the design in this thread, I believe?

Yeah, the Onimaru is one of Madkoifish's designs. You can find on his blog (with lots of eyecandy) here. He does some really stunning ship designs.

Also, June is the Belknap class, a fan design that I believe predates FASA trek products. The only images I can find from the calendar on the web are too small to determine if this is a nuTrek version or not.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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I wonder what the original designer of the Belknap-class (which I originally saw in the unlicensed technical manual Ships of the Star Fleet) thinks of another artist making money from a CG rendering of their design? It's not the first time it's appeared in a licensed Trek product - a ship of that class was seen in a DC TNG annual.

 

[Doom Shepherd]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

I wonder what the original designer of the Belknap-class (which I originally saw in the unlicensed technical manual Ships of the Star Fleet) thinks of another artist making money from a CG rendering of their design? It's not the first time it's appeared in a licensed Trek product - a ship of that class was seen in a DC TNG annual.

As I understand the copyright, Paramount has rights to "all derivative works," which extends to all fanmade designs. So it probably sucks, but there's probably nothing they can legally do about it.

(Came across a similar issue a few years back in a ships forum where two artists were fighting over the "rights" to one's redrawing of the other's original design.)

 

[Avro Arrow]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

Also, June is the Belknap class, a fan design that I believe predates FASA trek products. The only images I can find from the calendar on the web are too small to determine if this is a nuTrek version or not.

Hmm... I can only find small images too, but the nacelles appear to be prime-universe ones...

 

[sojourner]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

I wonder what the original designer of the Belknap-class (which I originally saw in the unlicensed technical manual Ships of the Star Fleet) thinks of another artist making money from a CG rendering of their design?

I am not sure the CGI artists are getting paid for their contributions. I'll see if Madkoifish is willing to comment on the subject.

 

[JarodRussell]

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They are.

 

[Leonard Emery]

Re: Ships of the Line 2014

June is actually an Athabaska class exploratory cruiser.


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