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Nazis ruined the swastika. It existed well before they did and is still used in India—though reversed.
Hate groups. Terrible people.
It is used throughout the world. In the Americas it can be seen at Hindu temples, especially in the Caribbean, the Guyanas and Suriname.
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It's still widely used in Japan, too.
Oh, I know. Half of my family now is Indian. It still doesn’t lessen the shock when you see a guy wearing a shirt with one.
And because Naxis ruined them and Americans are ignorant, Indians won’t use them here.
Imagine if a group of people took Nietzsche’s concept of the Ubermensch and perverted it to symbolize evil. Would we have stopped calling Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster’s character Superman? Because they share the same inspiration in names with completely different ideals?? Oh wait, that did happen! Hitler and the Nazis corrupted the name Superman BUT Siegel and Shuster redeemed it. If the writers of Legends and DC Comics had real courage they would do the same with Isis.
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If the Empire State Building had been leveled a few years earlier, or if Pearl Harbor had already happened, things might have been different. It's also worth remembering that leading into WWII a lot of Americans were opposed to war in Europe.
The number of average North Americans who were aware of Nietzsche’s Ubermench concept, let alone that it translated to Superman, was likely quite small. Without instant news updates via cable/social media to make the connection, there was little danger a critical mass of people would point it out.
Except, again, the Islamic State have never called themselves ISIS. The acronym is an invention of the Western media. Which makes the fear and hate toward the name completely idiotic.
Indeed, during the Obama administration, the government officially used the alternate acronym ISIL, precisely to avoid confusion with the various organizations and entities that already used the name Isis or the acronym ISIS, and the more responsible news sources did the same, but TV news hasn't been responsible for a long time, so they perpetuated the ISIS version.
True. It would have taken, say, someone speaking from a platform with national reach, in print or on the radio, or multiple such someones with sizable audiences, to push the message.
By the way, does anybody know whether anyone actually tried to make an issue of Superman's name along these lines, at any point in history really, but especially in the late 1930s or during or just after WWII? Did anyone testify to Congress during the 1954 comic book hearings about it (doubtful)?
Real courage? One, that’s condescending as fuck. Two, it’s just a comic book character. I would rather they use their courage for something a little more important than reclaiming the name of a character most people haven’t heard of. Or care about.
You honestly think this is just about an obscure superhero? This is the bigger issue of the very ancient name Isis being forever tainted because of lazyiness and ignorance of wrongly tying a group of terrorists with that name. A name they do not even use themselves ( which I was aware of already). Isis was until recently a completely exceptable female first name. There are likely women of various ages in the world with that name. Which are open to attacks because of ignorance. Legends made a brave move by having a Arab superhero in the current political climate. All I was suggesting was they go further and use this as a teachable moment to explaining the real history of the name.
Oh so we can you expletives here huh? I do not know what I wrote to deserve that???!! FUCK YOU!
Oh so we can you expletives here huh? I do not know what I wrote to deserve that???!! FUCK YOU!
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Okay, this isn't quite what it sounds like, but my boss's wife and I are going to go see this together.
You haven't seen Andromeda?
The bad guys are Nietzschians.
The Nazi Party were aware of Joe and Jerry.
https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-65/
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