SGU shows why the Maquis-SF dispute ended

[Guy Gardener]

Oh no, he obliterated her, but in such a way that he could bring her back to life if he played it right, which equates to the same thing as she leaving him. How dare she stand in front of a collapsing universe so wilfully like that.

Remember the Princess bride?

"Why didn't you wait for me?"

"But you were dead!"

"Death only slows down true love a little."

 

[Anwar]

Or the Count of Monte Cristo:

"How dare you marry another man just because you thought I was dead! I will ruin your life along with his!"

 

[Guy Gardener]

So I have to wonder if lovers will defy god almighty's rules about life, death and the stability of the universe, is it that Janeway went back in time to resurrect some wife whose husband had his own Star Ship?

 

[Anwar]

Well no, she just got sick of the old coot and killed him. But the method she did so somehow made things better for everyone including the old coot.

Way to go Kate!

 

[Guy Gardener]

I liked the novel Imzadi II, where they took the future TNG Timeline from All Good Things and made Deanna dead enough that Riker travels back though the guardian of Forever to rescue her and then data Follows Riker to make sure the time line is secure and that Deanna does die no matter how hard Riker tries to derail time even if he has to snap her neck himself.

Season 5 of Enterprise would have begun with Old Tit Pole arriving in the past to save trip from his moronic suicide bid?

 

[Kegg]

SGU has a bunch of civilians who have nothing to do but bitch and complain. The Destiny runs itself; Voyager doesn't. Voyager can't afford a bunch of whiny civilians who have no assigned tasks.

A distinct group of people =/= whiny civilians with no assigned tasks. The Maquis are basically terrorists (or 'freedom fighters' if you prefer), they may be a little 'unorthodox' and rough around the edges but they're not civvies.

Neelix and Kes are the only civilians on Voyager, and they'd be the ones fitting the 'whiny civilian' trope, if you like - definitely Neelix was guilty of this early on. And not only did the Maquis all get jobs - including two senior staff positions - even Neelix and Kes got medic and morale officer, respectively, which are a little low on the food chain of one's priorities.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I always assumed the Morale Officer Position was a farce and the rest of the crew was too embarrassed to admit how cruel they were to let Neelix in on the joke.

 

[Voyagerian]

I'm just glad the conflict ended period. Yes, some fans like that sort of thing, but not me, really. I have to hand it to Gene, when he basically had his feeling that the main chracters should get along-yep, there was Bones and Spock, but we all know the friend-love that was really there between the 'rivals'...and DS may have had more of an edge here or there, and very early-on with an angry Kira, for ex,but that was short, and she and Ben became very close friends also. Perhaps compared to our real-world, it's not as realistic...but, I for one love the closeness that came from setting aside the contention, and bitterness...and, if you consider, how long ,were Voyager's journey a real one itself, would Kathryn, for all her will and strength, have been able to forge a path-an ultimately successful one-across Kazon and Vidiian or Borg space, without a stable crew behind her, as they became, and survive all the tests they went through?Oh, and as for Neelix and his role as Morale Officer....try being seperated seventy thousand light years from every loved one you have, and someone doing their best to lighten that burden with a smile, or a birthday remembrance....and see how much it would mean.