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SGU CANCELLED!

yeah well, in my opinion George Lopez should have stayed at 11. Conan isn't that good to make him move. Isn't a good joke teller, his commercials suck, and most of his guests I have never heard of.
 
Desperation drives much of my TV viewing. If there were more good shows around, I wouldn't stoop to watching shows I know are crap.
Sounds familiar. But how are we supposed to explain that the later seasons of Earth: Final Conflict and Andromeda actually had viewers? ;)

I'm just happy I'm not that desperate! :eek:


Desperation drives much of my TV viewing. If there were more good shows around, I wouldn't stoop to watching shows I know are crap.

See I don't think I have ever watched anything out of desperation. I don't understand that at all. Heroes, I lasted two episodes and then went and did something more interesting.

I have to say Blood and Chrome had better be good or there'll be a loud wail heard over the interwebs.

There's gotta be some little thing that makes me stick around. I liked a lot of the Heroes actors, and the premise. That was enough.

But Blood & Chrome may have frakked up fatally - they just cast an emo twerp as Bill Adama! :klingon::klingon::klingon: He's not even Hispanic, good gort, how insulting is that, to recast the characters race? If I watch, it'll be only to root for the Cylons. :evil:
 
And this is really sucks hard. With Supernatural and Fringe probably getting canceled too.

I don't know about Fringe but Supernatural is almost exactly the opposite. It was supposed to end after Season 5 but the ratings were so good that the CW forced it to continue over the objections of its creator. And the only reason why they were able to get away with it was because the actors were locked into 6 year contracts.

And what's wrong with that? If you ask me, the constant presence of TV shows with multi-year arcs that take forever to explain anything is getting tiresome. I don't mind some continuity between episodes, but damn it if you have to include two to three minute recaps at the beginning of every episode explaining everything that's happened so far, it's possible you may be making the show too complicated for its own good.

I love shows with long story arcs, but there need to be smaller pay-offs along the way. I actually believe Atlantis's first season was a great way to introduce the show. It had an exciting pilot where they discovered the city and learned why it was in its present circumstance. Throughout the season, we were introduced to various enemies and learned more about the city. And while that was happening, little things were building up to the awesome final episodes where the Wraith attack the city. It was a great mix of standalone and arc storytelling.

I think Joss Whedon shows also have a really good ability to do this. The characters always have continuing, growing lives even if the individual episodes are stand-alones. Even at its most serialized (SEE Angel Season 4) there was still a reward at the end for sticking through each hour. Most of the shows that I abandon quickly are the ones that have no such reward at the end of the episode, like Heroes or Lost.

The only reason why I've stuck with SGU for so long is because I got the complete 1st season on DVD. I suspect that's the only way in which this show is at all digestible. I can't imagine dragging this out over several weeks. A mere one week gap between any of the first five episodes would probably be enough to lose me. I'd likely forget that the show existed at all.

They picked up MST3K from whom?

From Comedy Central after they canceled it. And actually, many of that show's best episodes came from its last three seasons on Sci-Fi: "Space Mutiny," "Time Chasers," "Overdrawn at the Memory Bank," "Hobgoblins," "Girl in Gold Boots," "Hamlet," "Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders," etc.

I'm wondering... what would happen if a show (any show, not only SGU) gets cancelled mid-season, but the ratings of the last episodes suddenly skyrocket into the stratosphere?

I can't think of any time that actually happened, but if it did, I guess in theory the show would pique the interest of either the network where it had been airing, or another network, if they thought it was worth the bother to revive.

It wasn't a surprise midseason cancellation but the WB seemed pretty clear that Season 10 would be the final season of 7th Heaven. But since it was heavily promoted as "the end," it drew a lot of new interest, particularly from old fans who had wandered away a while ago. This increased the ratings to the point where the CW suddenly decided to bring it back for Season 11.

And it seems like the CW is currently hedging their bets on Life Unexpected. (Note that they recently changed the DVD release title from "the complete series" to "Seasons 1 & 2.")
 
Desperation drives much of my TV viewing. If there were more good shows around, I wouldn't stoop to watching shows I know are crap.
Sounds familiar. But how are we supposed to explain that the later seasons of Earth: Final Conflict and Andromeda actually had viewers? ;)

I'm just happy I'm not that desperate! :eek:


Desperation drives much of my TV viewing. If there were more good shows around, I wouldn't stoop to watching shows I know are crap.

See I don't think I have ever watched anything out of desperation. I don't understand that at all. Heroes, I lasted two episodes and then went and did something more interesting.

I have to say Blood and Chrome had better be good or there'll be a loud wail heard over the interwebs.

There's gotta be some little thing that makes me stick around. I liked a lot of the Heroes actors, and the premise. That was enough.

But Blood & Chrome may have frakked up fatally - they just cast an emo twerp as Bill Adama! :klingon::klingon::klingon: He's not even Hispanic, good gort, how insulting is that, to recast the characters race? If I watch, it'll be only to root for the Cylons. :evil:

Hispanic isn't a race.
 
The "scientific" racist/crypto-Nazi view of "race" as a biological reality is still incredibly popular in the US. Which is why people could whip themselves up into a lather of fake indignation over, say, a UN resolution condemning Zionism as racist. In other cultures, "race" is more a cultural category, although it implies many of the members are born into the "race." That said, Hispanic or Latino as some people use it sometimes means Spanish-speaking Indian, i.e., non-white.
 
Sounds familiar. But how are we supposed to explain that the later seasons of Earth: Final Conflict and Andromeda actually had viewers? ;)

I'm just happy I'm not that desperate! :eek:


See I don't think I have ever watched anything out of desperation. I don't understand that at all. Heroes, I lasted two episodes and then went and did something more interesting.

I have to say Blood and Chrome had better be good or there'll be a loud wail heard over the interwebs.

There's gotta be some little thing that makes me stick around. I liked a lot of the Heroes actors, and the premise. That was enough.

But Blood & Chrome may have frakked up fatally - they just cast an emo twerp as Bill Adama! :klingon::klingon::klingon: He's not even Hispanic, good gort, how insulting is that, to recast the characters race? If I watch, it'll be only to root for the Cylons. :evil:

Hispanic isn't a race.

what about la raza? they're a group dedicated to the idea and preservation of that people
 
Having some Spanish heritage doesn't make you a race. There wouldn't even be a distinction but for how racism American society is. If you're Hispanic, chances are you're white, you're just not the right type of white for some people...
 
Um, adult Bill Adama isn't hispanic - his character, if anything, is Tauron and they don't seem to have a single racial identifier.

The actor playing Adama has hispanic heritage, but that's irrelevant to the character.
 
Having some Spanish heritage doesn't make you a race. There wouldn't even be a distinction but for how racism American society is. If you're Hispanic, chances are you're white, you're just not the right type of white for some people...

Or Black and back when it mattered by law you were Black and not Latino/Hispanic you just spoke with a different accent the the Southern Rural Blacks or the Northern Urban Blacks
 
What the fuck does any of this have to do with Stargate?

SGU is identical to BSG, so therefore making news about BSG relevant to discussion about SGU's cancellation.

That's how I'm interpreting it anyway. But you're right, back to Stargate.

So, ah, SGU's gone and Stargate is likely finished. Umm, you know I'm white?

Wow, that didn't last long.
 
Louis Ferreira is Portuguese, so is he hispanic? Doesn't this term apply only to spanish descendent whites? He looks pretty white to me.

Anyway, back on topic, so SGU is cancelled, MGM has money spared for continuing the franchise, and it looks like from various other posts around here that Wright and Co. are intent on finishing SGU before they ever do another SG-1 movie, the SGA movie, or another series. Finishing SGU's story is top priority as far as they are concerned. I, for one, am glad that this is the case as I don't want SGU's legacy to be an unresolved cliffhanger season finale.
 
Um, adult Bill Adama isn't hispanic - his character, if anything, is Tauron and they don't seem to have a single racial identifier.

The actor playing Adama has hispanic heritage, but that's irrelevant to the character.

It's not irrelevant to the fact that Hollywood seems to have an awful hard time finding nonwhite actors to cast in lead roles.

And I know quite a few Hispanics who would be rather amazed to learn that "Hispanic isn't a race." I guess the poor souls are delusional.
What the fuck does any of this have to do with Stargate?

Nothing. I'm bored of talking about Stargate. :p
 
Louis Ferreira is Portuguese, so is he hispanic? Doesn't this term apply only to spanish descendent whites? He looks pretty white to me.

Anyway, back on topic, so SGU is cancelled, MGM has money spared for continuing the franchise, and it looks like from various other posts around here that Wright and Co. are intent on finishing SGU before they ever do another SG-1 movie, the SGA movie, or another series. Finishing SGU's story is top priority as far as they are concerned. I, for one, am glad that this is the case as I don't want SGU's legacy to be an unresolved cliffhanger season finale.

I'm not sure about the others, but Brad, Joe and Rob have pretty much stated that they're not interested in doing another series. I don't see them ever doing one. I just hope that if one is made at some point then it stays true to the established mythology, rather than a reboot.
 
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