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SGU CANCELLED!

I guess it's easy to blame SyFy but SGU deserved to be cancelled unfortunately. The show was boring and cluttered with poor characters portrayed by poor actors. I've grown so weary of the arc based storytelling. What's wrong with a new adventure every week? Especially when you're on a spaceship supposedly going to a new planet every week. We really got to see nothing of the universe, just a small handful of empty planets. So much potential and so little done with it.

And if one night of wrasslin or pretending to see ghosts pays for a new sci-fi show, I'm fine with it.
 
I'm very amused that this thread has seen far more action than the episode discussion threads have. Hell, the cancellation seem to have made the forum more active overall.

The Cancellation is far bigger news that the series popularity.
SGU SUCKS has made quite the effort at discrediting the show and frankly it's done a good job discrediting itself.
 
We really got to see nothing of the universe, just a small handful of empty planets.
That's the universe for you. ;)

Lesson learned: realism is boring. If I want realism, I'll live my life. If I sit down and watch a sci-fi TV show, I want to be entertained with fiction, not bored with realism.

Two dimensional space battles against English-speaking aliens. Anyone remember the fun of that?
 
We really got to see nothing of the universe, just a small handful of empty planets.
That's the universe for you. ;)

Lesson learned: realism is boring. If I want realism, I'll live my life. If I sit down and watch a sci-fi TV show, I want to be entertained with fiction, not bored with realism.

Two dimensional space battles against English-speaking aliens. Anyone remember the fun of that?

Realism would be fine, but every planet being the same desert or the same forest all over again isn't realistic.
 
I'm very amused that this thread has seen far more action than the episode discussion threads have. Hell, the cancellation seem to have made the forum more active overall.

You noticed that, too! :lol:

It's been good discussion, for the most part.
 
Realism would be fine, but every planet being the same desert or the same forest all over again isn't realistic

Travel to many Alien worlds do you ?

I get what you mean I just couldn't resist myself :p I guess it all comes to down budget and really with no alien life like Humans on a planet then the natural order would remain so forests/jungles and deserts.

Need people to make cities and towns and advanced people to make what Earth looks like. SGU seemed to want less aliens and more focus on the characters and the ship, which begs the question why the name Stargate I guess.
 
The trick to growing any brand is to produce quality {whatever} that your target consumer will want.
It would be nice to think that consumers always want quality, but just as often, they want cheap crap at a low price. Some brands do very well with cheap crap at a low price. The trick to brand growth to understand your brand and what it means to your current customer base. Then plan to grow it by expanding the meaning incrementally and sensibly, with the goal of either selling new products to current customers, or expanding the customers for your brand, or both.

History Channel doing logging shows isn't any sort of brand strategy. It's just opportunism, grabbing at ratings wherever they can find them. That's fine for a short-term goal but long-term, they're destroying the meaning of their brand. They're not thinking about the future at all. Short-term thinking (just make the next quarter!) is the bane of American business.

People watch it. Game, set, match.
Wow, what a sophisticated brand-strategy analysis! :rommie:

Don't quit your day job.

What's wrong with a new adventure every week? Especially when you're on a spaceship supposedly going to a new planet every week.
It might be more interesting if the planets in question didn't look like the same old pine forests. ENT made the mistake of thinking that taking the audience to "alien worlds" every week would be inherently interesting. But if they're the same types of aliens we've seen before, with the same problems, trotting through the tenth iteration of the same old story, then no alien world is going to be interesting.

Two dimensional space battles against English-speaking aliens. Anyone remember the fun of that?
Yeah! I have a hunch that a return to a relatively unsophisticated type of space opera might be a big ratings hit (by skiffy standards) right about now. Just down and dirty, us-vs-them, video game style mayhem on a weekly basis. No whining and crying about "whether humanity deserves to live" boo fucking hoo. Just shut up and fight. That's why I'm betting on the success of Blood & Chrome.
 
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Well the Ancients purposely put gates on worlds that could support human life. That would necessitate plant life and filming in a Vancouver Forest is cheaper than creating a whole brand new planet from CG.
 
That's the universe for you. ;)

Lesson learned: realism is boring. If I want realism, I'll live my life. If I sit down and watch a sci-fi TV show, I want to be entertained with fiction, not bored with realism.

Two dimensional space battles against English-speaking aliens. Anyone remember the fun of that?

Realism would be fine, but every planet being the same desert or the same forest all over again isn't realistic.

Way too literal.
 
Well the Ancients purposely put gates on worlds that could support human life. That would necessitate plant life and filming in a Vancouver Forest is cheaper than creating a whole brand new planet from CG.

Yes, like there's only two options: Vancouver and CGI. :guffaw:
 
Well the Ancients purposely put gates on worlds that could support human life. That would necessitate plant life and filming in a Vancouver Forest is cheaper than creating a whole brand new planet from CG.

Yes, like there's only two options: Vancouver and CGI. :guffaw:
^^ In some early SG-1 episodes they still had the decency to use color filters to make it look different.
 
Call me a nut, but, I really enjoyed the characters and liked the show alot. It's a bit startling that we have no space travel sci-fi show on TV for the first time since 1987. At least I don't have to subsist on just the original 79 Trek shows and Buck Rogers. There's LOTS of good sci-fi to rewatch from the last 23 years.
Personally, I have doubts that Blood and Chrome will ever see the light of day, despite what they say. It'll cost AT LEAST twice as much as SGU to produce and I just don't see a willingness to fork over that kind of outlay right now on new sci-fi.

I'm usually not a glass is half empty type of person, but I agree that it's unlikely that B&C will become a series, or, if it does, that it'll last long.

I loved nuBSG but there were some problems in its implementation (too soapy for portions) and it lost viewers over its fairly short run. Never saw Caprica but apparently it didn't attract enough people to keep it alive. So, there's not a good track record. Typically, the ratings for each successive series is lower than the previous, unless there is a long gap. It's hard to imagine that B&C will pull in enough viewers to justify the cost.

I hope I'm wrong. If they do a great job they may well be able to fight against this historical trend.

I also think the SG franchise is dead for quite some time. The franchise is basically at the point that the ST was at after Nemesis. And, I doubt there will be a JJ to come along and rescue this franchise.

As for what type of space adventure would be best, I see Temis point about an all out action, no whiney battle sort of series. I think that might get tedious after awhile. I think a movie that was like Indiana Jones in space would be great. Have the focus on adventure and discovery (with some action and fighting along the way) through a small group in a private ship. Maybe they're investigating some larger-scale mystery. There wouldn't the angst, whining, or darkness of many newer series. Again, think Indiana Jones in space for inspiration.

Mr Awe
 
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I've grown so weary of the arc based storytelling. What's wrong with a new adventure every week?
Lesson learned: realism is boring. If I want realism, I'll live my life. If I sit down and watch a sci-fi TV show, I want to be entertained with fiction, not bored with realism.

Two dimensional space battles against English-speaking aliens. Anyone remember the fun of that?
That sort of thing can be fun, but it can also come off as too mundane or simplistic. The improved quality and sophistication of many recent shows made quite an impression on many of us and we want to see more of that. The suggestion of a return to the formulaic action/adventure format often feels like a step backwards or as if an opportunity to make something truly great will be missed. Some shows do work well or work best with a less serious approach, I just think that the realistic approach to drama has it's place and doesn't need to be scoffed at.

And realism doesn't necessarily mean boring soapish melodrama. It can simply mean natural behavior when it comes to characters, more attention to authenticity and detail when it comes to world-building and lasting consequences. And sure, you can say that if you want realism you can just live your life, but what about those things you can't experience in real life but would like to immerse yourself in or see explored plausibly? That's where realism comes in. It can provide experiences that basic entertainment can't.
 
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