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SG-U – Water (1x06) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Grade Water

  • 10 Chevrons – Out of this Universe

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • 9 Chevrons – Beyond the known Galaxies

    Votes: 7 7.5%
  • 8 Chevrons – In the Milky Way Galaxy

    Votes: 28 30.1%
  • 7 Chevrons – Within our Solar System

    Votes: 29 31.2%
  • 6 Chevrons – Haven’t got past Earth (Average)

    Votes: 17 18.3%
  • 5 Chevrons – No flying machines at all

    Votes: 6 6.5%
  • 4 Chevrons – Pre-Industrial

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • 3 Chevrons – Dark Ages

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2 Chevron – Throwing rocks and stones

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 1 Chevron – Cannot Establish Lock

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    93
I really hope the fact that Greer is a weasel himself gets picked up eventually. Unless the writers forgot that he stole food himself way back in the pilot.

That wasn't Greer. I thought so to, at the time, and had to rewind it a couple times to be sure. The guy that stole stuff in the pilot was the guy that was caught in this episode.
 
Since the format of the show is blatantly derivative of nuBSG, comparisons are pretty much inevitable.

But your consistent potshots aren't. You're bashing of nuBSG is tiring and usually only barely related to the topic at hand. You're not "comparing" anything; you're just getting in cheap shots.
I don't think so. I criticize the whole 'darker & grittier' fad dating back to the Reagan years; nuBSG is just the closest antecedent to SGU and therefore the most likely to be mentioned.

The Reagan years? That's at least twenty years, maybe thirty depending on where you start. How long does something have to last before it can be recognized as something beyond a 'fad?'
 
Yeah, dark has only been around since the Reagan years. :lol: That Macbeth certainly wasn't dark, gritty and depressing.
 
Well, I could call it "the decline and fall of Western Civilization," but I try to be optimistic.
 
I like the fact they acknowledged they only have the bullets they brought with them
 
Yeah, dark has only been around since the Reagan years. :lol: That Macbeth certainly wasn't dark, gritty and depressing.
Well, aside from things like Macbeth being done well, in the past we had variety; more and more since the 80s, everything has had to conform to the D&G fad. At this point, it's pretty difficult to find anything that doesn't.
 
This is the best episode of the series, I think. It's not needlessly complicated for once. I mean really... I have a hard time keeping up with the characters on this show.
 
Yeah, dark has only been around since the Reagan years. :lol: That Macbeth certainly wasn't dark, gritty and depressing.
Well, aside from things like Macbeth being done well, in the past we had variety; more and more since the 80s, everything has had to conform to the D&G fad. At this point, it's pretty difficult to find anything that doesn't.

The West Wing? Dexter? Pushing Daisies? All fifteen seasons of Stargate before this one?I admit that The Wire was awfully dark and gritty. But if you're saying it would have been better otherwise, bosh.
 
I like the fact they acknowledged they only have the bullets they brought with them
It's great they acknowledged it. Even better if it becomes a real issue... but then I'm sure the endgame is that they find some stupid ancient laser weapons and then we'll all be wishing they had brought more ammo :(
 
The West Wing? Dexter? Pushing Daisies? All fifteen seasons of Stargate before this one?I admit that The Wire was awfully dark and gritty. But if you're saying it would have been better otherwise, bosh.

Don't bother--you're arguing with a guy who thinks the new Star Trek movie is conforming to a dark and gritty fad because a bunch of people die and Spock kisses Uhura. The whole debate is absurd.
 
The West Wing? Dexter? Pushing Daisies? All fifteen seasons of Stargate before this one?I admit that The Wire was awfully dark and gritty. But if you're saying it would have been better otherwise, bosh.

Don't bother--you're arguing with a guy who thinks the new Star Trek movie is conforming to a dark and gritty fad because a bunch of people die and Spock kisses Uhura. The whole debate is absurd.

:lol: Star Trek is many things but dark and gritty ain't one of 'em.
 
The West Wing? Dexter? Pushing Daisies? All fifteen seasons of Stargate before this one?I admit that The Wire was awfully dark and gritty. But if you're saying it would have been better otherwise, bosh.

Don't bother--you're arguing with a guy who thinks the new Star Trek movie is conforming to a dark and gritty fad because a bunch of people die and Spock kisses Uhura. The whole debate is absurd.

:lol: Star Trek is many things but dark and gritty ain't one of 'em.

How can something with so much lens flare be "dark and gritty"? :lol:
 
Maybe a five or six star rating. Some of the characters, like Rush and Young, have promise. And the music is occasionally stirring ... same with the art direction. But I think the show flounders around aimlessly for too long trying to drag out really mundane issues with the ship. They're trying to emulate BSG without all the necessary conflict involved. I think they need to resolve the issues with the ship soon and start developing a larger story to keep me interested.
 
Yeah, dark has only been around since the Reagan years. :lol: That Macbeth certainly wasn't dark, gritty and depressing.
Well, aside from things like Macbeth being done well, in the past we had variety; more and more since the 80s, everything has had to conform to the D&G fad. At this point, it's pretty difficult to find anything that doesn't.

The West Wing? Dexter? Pushing Daisies? All fifteen seasons of Stargate before this one?I admit that The Wire was awfully dark and gritty. But if you're saying it would have been better otherwise, bosh.
As I said, getting worse. The fact that a straightforward adventure show like Stargate has been retooled for grim adolescents proves my point. I thought Pushing Daisies might be a sign that things are finally turning around, but it was canceled. And isn't Dexter about a serial killer?

How can something with so much lens flare be "dark and gritty"? :lol:
When it's rebooted to kill off two planets worth of people, not to mention the parents of the main characters, just for the "shock" value and to eliminate the core concept of an optimistic future; the current audience finds anything positive to be "cheesy."

Don't bother--you're arguing with a guy who thinks the new Star Trek movie is conforming to a dark and gritty fad because a bunch of people die and Spock kisses Uhura. The whole debate is absurd.
It's hardly absurd. I'm far from the only one who's aware of it. Even some of the architects of the fad, such as Alan Moore and Grant Morrison have spoken about it. It's a very blatant and obvious cultural phenomenon.
 
How can something with so much lens flare be "dark and gritty"? :lol:
When it's rebooted to kill off two planets worth of people, not to mention the parents of the main characters, just for the "shock" value and to eliminate the core concept of an optimistic future; the current audience finds anything positive to be "cheesy."

Wait, so people never died needlessly in previous Trek? Planets were never destroyed or wiped clean of life?
 
8. This one was a bit of a mixed bag but enjoyable. Characters were pretty good. The storyline was interesting with decent drama. Nothing stellar/epic but kept me in the story. The resolution was too obvious, in fact I thought that torchman's solution was going to be to herd them to the gate. The thing plot point about them lying to each other as being mature and a learning experience for Eli fell flat.

I enjoyed it but it was far from perfect. I have to ask again, are the showrunners going to change things up? This basic survival, obtaining resources stuff is ok for now. But, it won't keep the series going for the long run. The basic formula is: they lack X. Ship gets them X or at least gets a wormhole to X.

Mr Awe
 
I'm still unclear, did those few chunks of ice solve their water problems? Because all that ice they brought back might melt into 200-300 hundred liters tops.

"Good work everyone. Lt. Scott and I have brought back enough water for everyone for one day. I guess we'll be mining for water again soon."

Rush said that it would fill up a fraction of capacity. He also seemed annoyed that Young wanted to waste time trying to save Lt. Slut when he could be collecting more ice.

You're right, though, that the ice couldn't possibly last all that long. They really need to come back to this issue soon.

It's a closed system. So, all the water is recycled. The previous problem was that the aliens were draining the water. They are at less than full capacity on the water but it will be recycled and the alien drain is gone. Getting rid of the aliens was far more important than the measely amount of ice they obtained.

Mr Awe
 
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