Set blueprint exchange

[Count]

If memory serves, the ST5 engineering is the Jefferies tubes with a few consoles in it. The original sets were made for season 1 of TNG's "Too short a season" as underground tunnels there and were originally the Enterprise-D's maintenance corridors in "The Hunted" before the official Jefferies tubes sets were built.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x11/the_hunted_hd_287.jpg

Definitely not the regular Stage 9 sets in ST5.

 

[batboy853]

It also appeared in Sins of the Father as a Klingon hallway, and I think it's final appearance was in Voyager season 1 "Time and Again".

I never assumed that was main engineering on the Enterprise A, I always assumed it was a maintenance corridor, like a standing up jefferies tube. We see them on the TOS version of the connie in "In a Mirror, Darkly", and the Ent-E in First Contact / Nemesis. After-all, in ST5 when they blew up the brig wall they stepped through the wall and were then in a similar maintenance corridor.

 

[ashleytinger]

If memory serves, the ST5 engineering is the Jefferies tubes with a few consoles in it. The original sets were made for season 1 of TNG's "Too short a season" as underground tunnels there and were originally the Enterprise-D's maintenance corridors in "The Hunted" before the official Jefferies tubes sets were built.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x11/the_hunted_hd_287.jpg

Definitely not the regular Stage 9 sets in ST5.

I hadn't realized they built those for TNG first. Actually gives me some better ideas how they built them originally and added on to them for ST5 though. Thanks for the head's up!

EDIT:

I think the order might be wrong on that. TNG Season 3 episode 11 aired in January of 90. Would have been filmed after Star Trek V had been released in theaters in the summer of 1989. They may have been built for season 1 of Next Gen, but they were definitely modified for Star Trek V and then stripped to be the Next Gen Tubes after that for The Hunted.

 

[batboy853]

^that order would make sense, When they appear in TNG and later, they do not seem as long as in ST5.

The one ST5 room that I wish we knew more about was the observation lounge / mess hall room, I have never seen much reference material on it.

 

[ashleytinger]

^that order would make sense, When they appear in TNG and later, they do not seem as long as in ST5.

The one ST5 room that I wish we knew more about was the observation lounge / mess hall room, I have never seen much reference material on it.

One of the blueprint designs puts it smack dab in the front part of the saucer. There are supposedly shutters that lower so you can see out and raise. Obviously they never modified the model so that kind of makes sense but we never see it on screen from outside the ship at all. It would be where the three center lights/holes were on the original Connie model from TOS in the suacer. At least that's the fan/non-canon explanation for it. We don't have a canon one.

 

[Star Trek Apolgist]

^that order would make sense, When they appear in TNG and later, they do not seem as long as in ST5.

The one ST5 room that I wish we knew more about was the observation lounge / mess hall room, I have never seen much reference material on it.

I have a fan story in my head which for the first part would need the lower engineering/ Jefferies tubes and the second part would need the turboshaft and forward observation room.

 

[Redgeneral]

Made a strange discovery about the chairs on the Hathaway bridge - they would later be reused in a commercial for the Atari Jaguar around 1994

I don't have a link to the advert itself, but this youtube video (source of the above image) includes a clip of it at the 11:08 mark

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[cardinal biggles]

I wonder if those chairs were Modern Props rentals? There's nothing on their website that currently looks like them, but I'm sure things get modified or refurbished, especially over 20-30 years.

 

[Lt. Washburn]

Cool!

 

[Redgeneral]

I've found another instance of those Hathaway Chairs - they were used in a commercial for "HydroSub: 2021" for the Action Max vcr game system.

This commercial came out in 1987, two years before the episode.

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[Lt. Washburn]

How are you coming across these ads?

 

[Redgeneral]

I came across the chairs really randomly.

I follow lots of youtube user channels that make overview videos about obscure (and usually awful) game consoles and their games. Sometimes people include short snippets of the console adverts in these videos and that is how I found the first instance of the chairs.

The second instance, I read an article in Retro Gamer Magazine about the Action Max and went to watch a youtube gameplay video to see just how awful the system and games actually were. This led to looking up the adverts on youtube to see just how cheesy they were (answer: extreme 80s/90s cheese present). It was then I noticed in the last video the chairs.

Finding these chairs was a case of random serendipity.

 

[Lt. Washburn]

Heh, amazing chance at that.

 

[Star Trek Apolgist]

I came across the chairs really randomly.

I follow lots of youtube user channels that make overview videos about obscure (and usually awful) game consoles and their games. Sometimes people include short snippets of the console adverts in these videos and that is how I found the first instance of the chairs.

How about Star Trek Youtubers? I just got 100 subscribers on my channel StarTrekApologist big time I know.

 

[Lt. Washburn]

Came across this: http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=230&pid=16801#top_display_media

 

[Kaiser]

Made a strange discovery about the chairs on the Hathaway bridge - they would later be reused in a commercial for the Atari Jaguar around 1994

I don't have a link to the advert itself, but this youtube video (source of the above image) includes a clip of it at the 11:08 mark

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He makes good vids about video games well worth a subscribe

 

[Redgeneral]

LT. Washburn - We have that image here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/22613511960/in/photolist-Ashagf

I just noticed this today - TNG "The most toys" (3x22), the Jefferies junction slatted mount appears on a wall in Fajo's shuttle bay.

[My slatted mount blueprint - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/34226935950/in/album-72157650484616422/ ]

The jefferies junction's first appearance would be in TNG "Disaster" - 5x05. I had assumed the part had been made for the junction room, but here it is two seasons earlier.

To the left of the slatted mount is a pentagon shape that keeps turning up in the Enterprise D shuttlebay.

Also to the right of the slatted mount is a Pakled console from "Samaritan Snare".

 

[cardinal biggles]

What, the whole station? Isn't that just one of the wall alcoves from the TWOK reactor room repurposed yet again?

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twok-dc-hd/chapter19/st2-twok-dc-2727.jpg

Also interesting: the appearance of one of the new bridge chairs purchased for TFF (you can see a little bit of the backrest right behind Varria).

 

[Redgeneral]

You are right - The console and its alcove originated as the Twok reactor room. Before "The most toys", it appeared in "Samaritan Snare" and "A matter of honour"

Well spotted on the TFF bridge chair - I missed that one

 

[Lt. Washburn]

Is the stool seat what they used for the Generations bridge side stations?