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Redgeneral · May 23, 2022

batboy853 · May 23, 2022

That borg maturation chamber is mislabeled. "One" was the episode where Seven was in charge of getting Voyager through a nebula while the crew was in stasis.

There was no maturation chamber in that episode. That's the stasis pod that the crew used when the ship flew through the nebula.

Redgeneral · May 23, 2022

@Batboy - you're right about the pod. I used the auction description without checking
I've updated the title and moved it to the Voyager folder
Voyager - One status pod
http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15412519813248/16533061675607

Redgeneral · May 29, 2022

Lt. Washburn · May 29, 2022

All great stuff. I'd been meaning to suggest looking at the upcoming Propstore auction. There's some good stuff that's not directly blueprint-related, but still useful, like high resolution LCARS panel images that all the words/numbers can be read, as well as good dimensions that can be incorporated into set plans.

Redgeneral · May 30, 2022

Using the LCARS measurements is a good idea.
Also Heritage have this bridge panel - https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/en...269-142022.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Also I've started to sort through my saved images of LCARS and I'll start uploading to the archive when done. LCARS with known measurements will have their dimensions in the title.

David cgc · May 31, 2022

Redgeneral said:
V'ger ship exterior
http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16538331602418
Source: https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/en...259.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

V'ger memory wall
http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16538331601250
Source: https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/en...28.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515#

You know, it suddenly occurs to me that this should probably be archived here. Or somewhere. It was posted on Foundation3D (or possibly the Lightwave Guild, I don't remember which it was called at the moment these were posted) over ten years ago, and is a collection of screencaps of the V'Ger CG model from the 2001 TMP Director's Edition (and probably from the new one, it looks like only the texturing changed). I don't remember who specifically shared it, sorry.

V'Ger Geometry Previews

cardinal biggles · May 31, 2022

Lt. Washburn said:
All great stuff. I'd been meaning to suggest looking at the upcoming Propstore auction. There's some good stuff that's not directly blueprint-related, but still useful, like high resolution LCARS panel images that all the words/numbers can be read, as well as good dimensions that can be incorporated into set plans.

There's some really cool finds in there; one of the items up for auction is the PADD given to Picard with the charges against humanity at Q's trial in "Encounter at Farpoint." No wonder Picard said he could see nothing in the charges regarding them; the text is literally a bunch of random numbers.

batboy853 · Jun 2, 2022

If LCARS panels are to be added the archive, then keep in mind some of the panels have been given generic names in the auctions.

I spent a good amount of time today trying to track down when this panel was used:
https://propstoreauction.com/lot-details/index/catalog/319/lot/89052?url=/auctions/catalog/id/319?page=1&view=grid&catm=any&order=order_num&xclosed=no&featured=no&key=Star+trek&fbclid=IwAR3mmbOujhLnwNfPnqaNfScSK2ua-v6hrLaO6ONm85I7lCyxXfg_qxLXcBw&items=100

It's listed as Voyager holodeck control panel. But its not the ones that were used for most of the series run. I appears that it was used for s1 only.

Only screenshots I could find, were of where the set was dressed as the cargo bay.
https://voy.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x16a/learningcurve_497.jpg
https://voy.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x16a/learningcurve_144.jpg
https://voy.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x16a/learningcurve_145.jpg

Lt. Washburn · Jun 2, 2022

That makes sense. I saw that it didn't match the screencap they had with it, so I had wondered where it was from.

batboy853 · Jun 2, 2022

The panels that are seen s2 on wards were in an auction here:
https://www.icollector.com/Star-Trek-Voyager-TV-Starship-Voyager-Holodeck-Control-Panels_i23631790

I feel like I've seen them appear again recently with better images, but I cannot find them.

Also this panel:
https://www.icollector.com/Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-TV-Starfleet-Bridge-Control-Panel_i23631777
Listed as bridge lcars, but they aren't AFAIK. They are similar to the Enterprise-E bridge lcars as well as the Prometheus bridge LCARS, but they aren't. I think they are supposed to be the LCARS from the Jupiter lab that appeared in Voyager S2 The Swarm (the episode where the doctor started losing his memory), but I cannot find proper screencaps to confirm.

Redgeneral · Jun 3, 2022

@batboy853 - good spot with panel identification. Generic names/descriptions are the main reason it has been such a slow process to sort. Hopefully the LCARS will be split into archive albums - "Original cast movies", "TNG","DS9","VOY","Generic Buttons", "Generic Isolinear", and "Sovereign". I do suspect there may have to be an album called "unsorted".

After seeing @David cgc post with the V'ger geometry, I realised that there wasn't anywhere archiving this stuff. So I decided to make a new category on the archive - "Production Used CGI Models"
http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16540995939398

Currently there are 822 images total - a mix of orthographic and perspective image renders of the models (no screenshots)

Admiral Janeway Shuttle
Aero shuttle
Akira
Alice
Andorian cruiser
Anomaly
Arctic One
Arkonian
Axanar Cargo
Bajoran Fighter
Bajoran Freighter
Baneth
Behive Whisp
Benthan
Bio-ship
Borg Armoured Cube
Borg Cube
Borg Probe
Cardassian Galor
Cardassian Orbital Weapons platform
Cardassian Repair station
Cardassian Workbee
Centaur
Class 2 probe
Communicator ship
Conestoga
Cousteau
Daelen
Dauntless
Defiant
Delta Flyer
Delta Flyer escape pod
Denobulan Medical ship
Devore
Dinaal Hospital
Echo Two
Emmette
Enolian
Enterprise E
Enterprise j
Enterprise NX
Enterprise TMP
Equinox
Ferengi
Flea
Fortunate
Friendship 1
Gar
Hierarchy
Hirogen Dreadnought
Hirogen Ship yard
Horizon
Inspection Pod
Intrepid
Jem Hadar Cruiser
Jem Hadar Fighter
Jupiter Station
Kago ship
Karema
Klingon Attack vessel
Klingon Cargo
Klingon D-5
Klingon D5 tanker
Klingon NX BoP
Klingon Raptor
Klingon Transport
Kreetassan
Kriosian
Ledosian Fighter
Ledosian Freighter
Malon Shuttle
Malon Tanker
Malurian attack ship
Markonian
Mars Ares IV orbiter
Mazarite
Midas Array
Monean
Multispatial Probe
Nausicaan
Nebula
Noway Class
NX Alpha
NX Columbia
NX Escape Pod
Oberth
Orbital dry dock
Orion Barge
Orion Interceptor
Osaarian
Pirate Cruiser
Pirate Fighter
Prometheus
Relativity
Repair station
Reptohumanoid
Retellian Freighter
Rhode Island
Romulan Drone
Romulan NX BoP
Romulan Scimitar
Romulan Valdore
Runabout
Sabre
Shuttlepod
Silent Mothership
Silent Shuttle
Stargazer
Steam Runner
Suliban Cell Ship
Suliban Cruiser
Suliban Helix station
Suliban Long Cell
Suliban Shuttle
SulibanCargo ship
Takret
Tandaran
Tash catapult
Tash Vessel
Telaxian
Think Tank
Tholian
Type 10
Type 11
Type 17
Unnamed transport
Utopia Planitia Spacedock
Valakian
Varro
Vidiian
Vissian Stratopod
Voyager
Voyager Buoy
Voyager Escape pod
Vulcan Dkyr
Vulcan Dvahl
Vulcan Shran
Vulcan Shuttle
Vulcan Surak
Vulcan Survey ship
Vulcan Vahklas
Warhead
Warp Delta
Xantoran
Xindii Bomber
Xindii Insectoid
Xindii Reptillian

Sources:
Drexfiles (website dead - wayback archive missing most images)
Eavesdropping with Johnny (website now missing all images)
Ex Astris Scientifica (has some images from the first two sites)
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/index.php (has some images from the first two sites)
V'Ger Geometry Previews from @David cgc in post 1469
My hard drive (no idea of the original sources from years ago)
Robert Bonchune Artstation https://www.artstation.com/sleekndone (has been creating new renders of the original production cgi models with reworked textures)
Trekcore twitter for some Voyage Renders (https://twitter.com/trekcore/status/1085764277670154242)

David cgc · Jun 3, 2022

Fabio Passaro's "Meshweaver" portfolio site has a number of renders of CG ships he's prepared and rendered for the Eaglemoss model line. Depends on how you define "Production-Used;" They were all definitely used in the Eaglemoss books and magazines, but the models themselves are a mix of screen-used (sometimes with additional detailing or other modernizations) and ones made after the fact for things like book covers and the Ships of the Line calendars (or specifically just for Eaglemoss), and he doesn't specify the sources.

Also, I love you. I'm just thinking about how unbelievable this would've been back when I first started out in the '90s, when the best reference we could get were compressed JPEG screencaps of VHS-recorded episodes by people with video capture cards, and the occasional publicity render. Even some of the most obscure ships in crisp, orthographic clarity. I guess that applies to the whole collection, but seeing all of this all at once in my bailiwick rocketed me back in time twenty years.

Redgeneral · Jun 3, 2022

For now I've defined "Production Used" as Movies and TV series productions.

If we figure out which of Fabio Passaro's ships are modified from the original TV and Movie cg models, then I would add them to the album. Though probably with their titles including the term "(remodelled)"

David cgc said:
Also, I love you

Glad to have made your day.

Lt. Washburn · Jun 4, 2022

You're doing everyone a great service here whether they realize it or not!

blssdwlf · Jun 4, 2022

Seconded and tripled @Redgeneral - A BIG THANK YOU for organizing and making these materials available :techman:

batboy853 · Jun 5, 2022

Redgeneral said:
@batboy853Generic names/descriptions are the main reason it has been such a slow process to sort. Hopefully the LCARS will be split into archive albums - "Original cast movies", "TNG","DS9","VOY","Generic Buttons", "Generic Isolinear", and "Sovereign". I do suspect there may have to be an album called "unsorted".

I'd be willing to put in some time tracking down and getting what you currently have identified.
https://www.icollector.com/ has a ton of lcars displays, but the sites search feature is not that great. I search for LCARS and not everything comes up.

Redgeneral · Jun 6, 2022

@batboy853 That would be wonderful - I'll PM you the link to my files

I was recently sent some Discovery ship renders previously on Meshweaver's site. These seem to have been production used and then converted by Meshweaver.
I've uploaded them to the "Production used CGI models" album with the prefix "DISC - " to each file to make it easier to find.
http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16540995939398

Also in the "Picard Ships" album I have added some views of the Excelsior II ship
A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16477265374302/16545315211202
B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16477265374302/16545315215071
C - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16477265374302/16545315209923
D - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16477265374302/16545315213778
Source: https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1533786382140940288/photo/1

Rekkert · Jun 7, 2022

Sorry if this was discussed before and I missed it, but what does "Production used" means for those CGI models? Because I see a few that were not used in any TV or movie production there, like the CG Centaur, the Foundation Imaging Sovereign-Class model (which they literally did in their free time and not under contract for anything), the USS Musk (yuck) Oberth, or the Constellation renders by Rob Bonchune.

Also, Eaglemoss' 3D model for the Steamrunner was used for one of the Confederacy's ships in Picard, so I guess the images of said model on Meshweaver's site should also be added?

Count · Jun 8, 2022

Rekkert said:
Sorry if this was discussed before and I missed it, but what does "Production used" means for those CGI models? Because I see a few that were not used in any TV or movie production there, like the CG Centaur, the Foundation Imaging Sovereign-Class model (which they literally did in their free time and not under contract for anything), the USS Musk (yuck) Oberth, or the Constellation renders by Rob Bonchune.

Also, Eaglemoss' 3D model for the Steamrunner was used for one of the Confederacy's ships in Picard, so I guess the images of said model on Meshweaver's site should also be added?

Those are from Rob Bonchune's artstation, he's been rendering out CG assets from Voyager/Enterprise/Post-Enterprise-PreDisco era official star trek productions.So either screen used in the afore mentioned series, or used in officially licensed media after those series ended.
The foundation E was used in Nemesis for a few shots, The Constellation was from TNG-R's "Peak Performance", the Oberth was used for Star Trek Borg Invasion 4D at Vegas.

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