Spoilers Section 31 General Discussion Thread

[The Wormhole]

I’m sure Korax would approve.

While he's hauled away as garbage?

(Laughs boisterously)

 

[Wouter]

Admiral Ross knew about them. They have moles within the organization as Bashir was able to trick Sloan to coming to the station by sending a false report to Starfleet Medical.

Sloan was able to pose as a Fleet Captain, and as whoever he was in 'Inter Arma', so they're well organized

And there this Exchange from "Inter Arma" as well

SISKO: That was my instinct as well, but after talking to Ross I think we might have an opportunity here we can turn to our advantage. Officially, Starfleet Command has said that they are appalled at the very notion that an organisation like Section Thirty one might exist, and that they plan to get to the bottom of this entire business.
BASHIR: And unofficially?
SISKO: They have quietly pushed the investigation aside, which means either they don't take Section Thirty one seriously or someone at Starfleet Command is protecting them. Either way, we now have a chance to get someone inside and I think I want to take it.

Yes, and it is understandable that some in Starfleet - I suspect people like admiral Ross - would want a competent organisation that can actually do things, rather than the constantly infiltrated joke that is Starfleet Security. S31 may be a worthy adversary for the Tal Shiar and the Founders, Starfleet Intelligence isn't.

And Sisko might be against them, but he has no problem using his own private intelligence and assasination agent in the form of Garak.

 

[BillJ]

And Sisko might be against them, but he has no problem using his own private intelligence and assasination agent in the form of Garak.

Simply playing by the rules of the game.

 

[fireproof78]

Yes, and it is understandable that some in Starfleet - I suspect people like admiral Ross - would want a competent organisation that can actually do things, rather than the constantly infiltrated joke that is Starfleet Security. S31 may be a worthy adversary for the Tal Shiar and the Founders, Starfleet Intelligence isn't.

And Sisko might be against them, but he has no problem using his own private intelligence and assasination agent in the form of Garak.

Commonly known as "black ops" which Starfleet has employed multiple times in the past.

And Sisko does such a good job of playing the hypocrite it's fantastic bit of layer in the shown, even if Garak is a manipulative creep who used Sisko's trust to further his own ends.

 

[Frontis]

The question is if Section 31 is really needed.
Another thing, so far I didn't see likable persons in Section 31 (with exception of some crew members they hired from the Enterprise or DS9) Maybe you have to be some a..hole to work there.

 

[fireproof78]

The question is if Section 31 is really needed.
Another thing, so far I didn't see likable persons in Section 31 (with exception of some crew members they hired from the Enterprise or DS9) Maybe you have to be some a..hole to work there.

And I think that's an entirely valid question that invites a measure of drama that would be interesting and, dare I say it ("Dare, dare"*) dramatic for a Star Trek story to explore.

I don't think Section 31 is meant to be likeable, nor would it be a prerequisite to get the job done. Kirk came across as pretty unlikable and unreasonable to the Romulans on his espionage mission. I imagine those who need to be more charismatic do so, while others are just the pragmatists who don't care except to get the job done.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I assume the movie will be going for a band of lovable rogues vibe.

 

[HotRod]

I wonder if we'll see a new (and hopefully better) trailer today? I know that Kacey Rohl is in New York for Comic-Con, so we can at least expect something.

 

[Tomalak]

Maybe a release date?

 

[Firebird]

January 24th!

 

[Tomalak]

Get in!

 

[HotRod]

 

[Dukhat]

Well I guess we can sorta see what a 2330’s era Starfleet phaser looks like. Apparently they made it similar to the already-outdated TMP phaser prop they gave Castillo in YE. Nice bit of continuity there, though

 

[HotRod]

I was bored.....

 

[Dukhat]

One can only hope that that’s what we’re going to see…

 

[Tuskin38]

I need to see the whole phaser lmao. I will watch the movie just to see if there's any regular starfleet stuff.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Bald lady a Deltan?

Blond tips a Romulan?

I forget.

 

[Dukhat]

I need to see the whole phaser lmao. I will watch the movie just to see if there's any regular starfleet stuff.

That’s the only reason why I’m watching it.

 

[Tuskin38]

Bald lady a Deltan?

Blond tips a Romulan?

I forget.

I'm not sure if they revealed any species except for the character on letter C being a Chameloid.

But I haven't been playing that close attention.

 

[HotRod]

I need to see the whole phaser lmao. I will watch the movie just to see if there's any regular starfleet stuff.

Yeah, it was the first thing I noticed. It seems very correct for the era. That, mixed with a few other things like the computer screens in the trailer from San Diego, makes me think we may be pleasantly surprised by the appearance of the Lost era. I'll bet right now that we do see a Monster Maroon in this film, plus at least one previously established Starship design.