I like the trailer for Beyond and the film itself.
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Not the best trailer and kinda felt it had been slapped together in a hurry, but i did like that it doesn't give a lot away. I don't feel like I've seen the whole movie in the trailer *looks in the direction of Alien: Romulus*
As always I will wait to see the final product before casting aspersions.
As always I will wait to see the final product before casting aspersions.
I thought the trailer looked cool and I'm interested to see what they do with this idea.
Rachel Garrett is a main character, so it’s the 24th century
One of the Section 31ers is supposed to be Rachel Garrett of the Enterprise-C. So early 24th century maybe?
I hope the effects aren't finished and still a work-in-progress for the dude who looks like a cosplay Borg you'd meet at a convention.
Beyond that, the trailer did nothing for me. It looked incredibly generic, and like someone said let's do Suicide Squad meets Star Trek.
Also, for me, I don't need more backstory on Mirror Phillipa Georgiou. We've explored her character and motivations in multiple episodes of Discovery. If a significant part of the movie is flashbacks to why she became Terran Hitler, we've already been there.
Beyond that, the trailer did nothing for me. It looked incredibly generic, and like someone said let's do Suicide Squad meets Star Trek.
Also, for me, I don't need more backstory on Mirror Phillipa Georgiou. We've explored her character and motivations in multiple episodes of Discovery. If a significant part of the movie is flashbacks to why she became Terran Hitler, we've already been there.
How does one become a saint when one wasn't raised in paradise?
Even though I'm over 40, I'm pretty mellow when it comes to new Star Trek. I don't expect everything to neatly fit into a cohesive "canon" and I'm more than happy to embrace new styles and different takes on the Trek universe. Or at least ignore them if they're not my thing. But this . . .
To borrow from Roger Ebert, I hated this trailer. Hated it hated it hated it HATED it. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant audience-insulting moment of it. Hated the sensibility that thought anyone would like it. Hated the implied insult to the audience that anyone would be entertained by it.
Without Michelle Yeoh this is a generic knockoff direct-to-streaming action sci-fi movie. With Michelle Yeoh, it's a generic knockoff direct-to-streaming action sci-fi movie with Michelle Yeoh in it. You know those generic toys in the 60s and 70s that they'd slap a Star Trek label on? This is the modern equivalent of that. This movie has about as much to do with Star Trek as "Legally Blonde" has to do with Batman. If I had a gun with two bullets and I was trapped in an elevator with Khan, Gul Dukat, and the Section 31 movie, I would shoot the Section 31 movie twice.
To borrow from Roger Ebert, I hated this trailer. Hated it hated it hated it HATED it. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant audience-insulting moment of it. Hated the sensibility that thought anyone would like it. Hated the implied insult to the audience that anyone would be entertained by it.
Without Michelle Yeoh this is a generic knockoff direct-to-streaming action sci-fi movie. With Michelle Yeoh, it's a generic knockoff direct-to-streaming action sci-fi movie with Michelle Yeoh in it. You know those generic toys in the 60s and 70s that they'd slap a Star Trek label on? This is the modern equivalent of that. This movie has about as much to do with Star Trek as "Legally Blonde" has to do with Batman. If I had a gun with two bullets and I was trapped in an elevator with Khan, Gul Dukat, and the Section 31 movie, I would shoot the Section 31 movie twice.
But...but it is a direct-to-streaming action sci-fi movie.
The trailer did not impress me at all, and I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. Hell, I still am, though it seems exactly the tone I didn't want.
I'm not a fan of the attempts that Discovery made repeatedly to rehabilitate MU Georgiou. I'm also not a fan of the attempts post DS9 to retcon Section 31 from an evil conspiracy within the heart of the Federation that subverts its values, to "hard men doing hard things." But Kurtzman seems to love it, for some reason. I was ready for a Trek spy movie, and anticipated anything from kitchy Bond movie vibes to a paranoid thriller.
Instead, I get what seems like a poor attempt to ape Suicide Squad. The first one, not the funny one with heart that James Gunn did.
Obviously, this could just be what Paramount is marketing it as - maybe the movie doesn't have a similar tone, but it's not promising.
I'm not a fan of the attempts that Discovery made repeatedly to rehabilitate MU Georgiou. I'm also not a fan of the attempts post DS9 to retcon Section 31 from an evil conspiracy within the heart of the Federation that subverts its values, to "hard men doing hard things." But Kurtzman seems to love it, for some reason. I was ready for a Trek spy movie, and anticipated anything from kitchy Bond movie vibes to a paranoid thriller.
Instead, I get what seems like a poor attempt to ape Suicide Squad. The first one, not the funny one with heart that James Gunn did.
Obviously, this could just be what Paramount is marketing it as - maybe the movie doesn't have a similar tone, but it's not promising.
Damn.
Guardians of the Galaxy actually was their intent.
I'm not sure that works. The Suicide Squad does black ops. The Guardians of the Galaxy is just a group of mercs out there having fun.
I'd be 100% fine with a GOTG ripoff with Michelle Yeoh in the lead (she was in Vol. 2 as a minor character anyway) but tonally, it doesn't mesh with the idea of Section 31 operatives at all.
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