A really shitty one, i might add. Empress Georgiou coming back for one special Discoverse special presentation special. Hold your socks folks, this will be even weirder and nonsensical than Disco season 3 and 4 combined..
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There's only been 1 season, with I think 18 episodes. Season 2 is coming in December.
Season 1 had 20 episodes.
Good.
Theatrical is non-starter for money. Paramount wants to see a better profit.
I had been saying for YEARS as Star Trek was expanding on streaming that they should seriously consider making made-for streaming movies/limited series.
I'm real glad they've gone this route for Section 31. I was never really interested in seeing it become a series.
I'm real glad they've gone this route for Section 31. I was never really interested in seeing it become a series.
As much as I like Yeoh I am not sure I need a redemption ark for Space Cannibal Hitler but new Trek is new Trek and I will give it a chance.
Ugh. At least it's a movie and not a series. I still wish they had never done anything with it, though.
We don't need Trek at all.
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I adore Michelle Yeoh, but I really am not looking forward to a Section 31 film when we live in an era that tends to glorify militarism and the violation of human rights as being "for the greater good," especially focused on a universe, like Star Trek, where humanity has grown and realized a little bit of "security" is not worth the loss of essential freedoms. It just seems like a regressive step.
Be a little more forward thinking. If Kurtzman wants to make a one off movie about Space Hitler, breaking good, no one should stop him…
We don't know what it is about though? The pitch line is learning making peace with her past sins. Why not explore thta idea?
It's reductionist to me to say it's regressive. We don't know. It could very well be Georgiou learning these methods of security above all don't work, as part of her ongoing character arc. The Mirror Universe humans are described as "the very flower of humanity." And people look down on them, and say "Well, that's not for our Star Trek." Well, then our humanity has no place in Star Trek. We are doomed as an ignoable savage race rather than ever being capable of evolving.
It's reductionist to me to say it's regressive. We don't know. It could very well be Georgiou learning these methods of security above all don't work, as part of her ongoing character arc. The Mirror Universe humans are described as "the very flower of humanity." And people look down on them, and say "Well, that's not for our Star Trek." Well, then our humanity has no place in Star Trek. We are doomed as an ignoable savage race rather than ever being capable of evolving.
Sure. Send your pitch to Paramount
Some sins are so grievous that it is irrelevant if the sinner makes peace with them. She is canonically a genocidal maniac. I'm not saying it's impossible for the writers to sell an arc that makes her a sympathetic protagonist in the face of this but it's definitely a tough needle to thread and even if they do it I'm not sure how this fits into the overall Trek philosophy to the extent it's been made explicit.
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That is possible, and I will give it a chance, but the likelihood that this is about Section 31 being something that should be abolished is slim. It is more likely to be depicted like most police procedurals in the modern era, in that while there are some "bad apples" who will get caught by the protagonists, the system itself is a force for good.
It's not looking down on someone who gained her power by slavery, bigotry, and a soul crushing environment of fear, along with a dash of cannibalism and heaps of torture and cruelty. If the show was about Adolf Hitler getting a puppy and learning the true meaning of friendship, a lot of people would rightfully have a problem with it. That signifies growth for this "ignoble, savage race," wouldn't you think?
I haven’t seen it yet, So I can’t actually declare it “shitty”. I will say I’m not a fan of Sec31 or the Emperor in Exile.
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