Spoilers Section 31 General Discussion Thread

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So Fuzz is neither Vulcan, nor Romulan, but a new species

 

[HotRod]

So Fuzz is neither Vulcan, nor Romulan, but a new species

I'm OK with this. Considering how many human looking species we've seen throughout the years, plus known Vulcan offshoots like the Mintakans, it makes sense for there to be more offshoots out there.

 

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New review snippets in the grading and discussion thread

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Hmm, not encouraging.

STAR TREK: SECTION 31 Is a Dreary, Unfortunate Misfire — Our Spoiler-Free Review

Spoiler-Free Review: SECTION 31 brings back Michelle Yeoh — but forgets all the STAR TREK — in the dismal new Paramount+ film

blog.trekcore.com

 

[FredH]

Hmm, not encouraging.

STAR TREK: SECTION 31 Is a Dreary, Unfortunate Misfire — Our Spoiler-Free Review

Spoiler-Free Review: SECTION 31 brings back Michelle Yeoh — but forgets all the STAR TREK — in the dismal new Paramount+ film

blog.trekcore.com

Dammit. James Whitbrook’s review over on io9 appears to concur. I’ll still watch it the once, but it sure sounds like they threw away the whole point of Section 31; that’s a disappointing shame — though admittedly it’s exactly what the advertising implied.

 

[James Cole]

Section 31 will infuriate Star Trek fans and bore everyone else. It is rote and derivative and doesn’t even look good. Michelle Yeoh has a moment here and there where she shows off a cool fight move, and that’s the only thing keeping the movie from getting a 1, our lowest score. Keep away from this at all costs and focus on the next season of Strange New Worlds.

Star Trek: Section 31 Review - IGN

The Michelle Yeoh fronted spin-off movie Section 31 is 100 minutes of generic schlock containing only trace elements of Star Trek.

www.ign.com

Although it’s officially a movie, Section 31 feels more like the type of TV movies that could be a pilot we saw in the pre-streaming era. But it’s impossible to think that anyone would want enough of this to launch a sequel or another series.

Instead, Section 31 is, at best, understood as proof that maybe “Spock’s Brain” or “Shades of Grey” or, heck, all of Discovery season five aren’t so bad after all. At worst, it will be forgotten, never to have any influence on the future of Star Trek at all.

Star Trek: Section 31 Review: Badly Goes Where Everyone Has Gone Before

Star Trek: Section 31 applies a veneer of Trek references to an ugly, forgettable TV movie.

www.denofgeek.com

 

[Firebird]

Trekcore’s review is pretty damning, but about what I expected the film to be like, though I hoped it would be better. I’ll at least watch it once on Friday, but that’ll probably be it.

Seems like it fell victim to the problem of trying to appeal to everyone while saying nothing and satisfying no one.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

My expectations have always been low for this project, but it’s still disappointing to hear, especially since Trek has been having a good streak.

 

[James Cole]

Finally found a positive one

“Section 31” is under a lot of pressure, but, despite my initial reservations, it manages to stick the landing. My only critique is that I wish this was a series as originally intended as I would love to spend more time with these characters. Using Section 31 is a clever way of interrogating redemption arcs and who utopias allow to be included, but the film resists the urge to give into the cynicism that has irked fans of “Star Trek” about the organization in the past. “Star Trek: Section 31” has a distinct personality while still feeling like a “Trek” film, with characters outside of the normal scope of the franchise.

‘Star Trek: Section 31’ Review: Michelle Yeoh Proves Skeptics Wrong in Charming Paramount+ Spinoff Film

"Star Trek: Section 31" finds Michelle Yeoh adding nuance and charm to a spy thriller spinoff movie for Paramount+

www.thewrap.com

Any rewatch of the Original Series reminds us that "Star Trek," for all of its high-minded ideals, is built upon a gleeful, wobbly foundation of outrageous junk. The beauty of "Star Trek" is that it's kinda, sorta everything, and we'll argue about the nature of that everything until the sun burns out.

So here I am, giving "Star Trek: Section 31" my recommendation with the knowledge that it's going to turn off a lot of Trek fans who want this franchise to be exclusive classy hard sci-fi, and also the knowledge that its inherent dorkiness and reliance on deep cut Trek references could alienate those looking for a good time with some dumb action. What is "Star Trek" in 2025? It's something specific and strange and alienating enough to not be for everyone. And that's "Section 31."

/Film Rating: 7 out of 10

Star Trek: Section 31 Review: This Discovery Spinoff Film Is B-Movie Trash (In A Good Way) - SlashFilm

Star Trek: Section 31 sees the beloved sci-fi franchise lean hard into outrageous, b-movie action ... and it somehow works better than you'd think.

www.slashfilm.com

 

[Tosk]

Trekcore’s review is pretty damning

And they are often quite kind to "lesser Trek" IIRC, so it'll be interesting to see how bad it needs to be to get such a vehement thumbs down from them.

(Note: I have read only the headline of TrekCore's review, not the full text. I also acknowledge, obviously, that 'TrekCore' is not a homogeneous whole.)

 

[Firebird]

And they are often quite kind to "lesser Trek" IIRC, so it'll be interesting to see how bad it needs to be to get such a vehement thumbs down from them.

(Note: I have read only the headline of TrekCore's review, not the full text. I also acknowledge, obviously, that 'TrekCore' is not a homogeneous whole.)

They even mention at the top of the review that they try to keep an open mind and try to be as gracious for the newer series, but it wasn’t enough in this case.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

TrekCore certainly isn’t part of the insufferable Fandom Menace types.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I didn't even know they did reviews.

 

[James Cole]

As mentioned above, Starfleet is barely seen in the movie. Thanks in large part to this taking place outside Federation space, it’s hard to get a grasp on just when this movie takes place. The inclusion of a younger Lt. Rachel Garrett (future captain of the Enterprise-C) gives us a rough idea that this takes place in the early 24th century, one of the “lost eras” of Trek, between Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and The Next Generation. One nice touch is how there are hints of this transitionary era in the production design, and especially the props. The Starfleet issued phaser Lt. Garrett carries is a nice blend of 23rd and 24th century tech. And while the updated tricorders are much more present day “smartphone” looking than the TNG tricorders, the production team used the TNG tricorder sound effects for it. These little touches help connect the film to the larger Trek universe.

Early Thoughts On ‘Star Trek: Section 31’ (Spoiler-Free)

Anthony, Matt, and Laurie share some of their initial thoughts, with a detailed review coming on Friday.

trekmovie.com

A user in the comments section:

when reviews on this, the most friendly of trek sites, are reaching for positive things to say…oof

 

[137th Gebirg]

Hmm, not encouraging.

STAR TREK: SECTION 31 Is a Dreary, Unfortunate Misfire — Our Spoiler-Free Review

Spoiler-Free Review: SECTION 31 brings back Michelle Yeoh — but forgets all the STAR TREK — in the dismal new Paramount+ film

blog.trekcore.com

Wow! So that happened. Oh well…. I’ll still watch it.

 

[Daedalus]

Finally found a positive one

‘Star Trek: Section 31’ Review: Michelle Yeoh Proves Skeptics Wrong in Charming Paramount+ Spinoff Film

"Star Trek: Section 31" finds Michelle Yeoh adding nuance and charm to a spy thriller spinoff movie for Paramount+

www.thewrap.com

Star Trek: Section 31 Review: This Discovery Spinoff Film Is B-Movie Trash (In A Good Way) - SlashFilm

Star Trek: Section 31 sees the beloved sci-fi franchise lean hard into outrageous, b-movie action ... and it somehow works better than you'd think.

www.slashfilm.com

reliance on deep cut Trek references

Well then, let's just see how deep cut they are!

 

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Fuzz is:
"a microscopic organism in a tiny spaceship inside a Vulcan-shaped Golem body" (ign)

 

[Nerys Myk]

Aren't all Trek films B-movies?


Put away the pitchforks, I'll come quietly.

 

[fireproof78]

So, everyone not watching now, right?

 

[Nerys Myk]

So, everyone not watching now, right?

Of course.