Fury said as much in this episode. After the Battle of Earth (Endgame) a team (of Skrulls?) went in to collect the DNA.
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I understood that reference.
What exactly would YOU have done for the series?
I was very entertained by the episode. I too, am REALLY enjoying Olivia Coleman. She's makes anything she's in, better.
I get that they needed to give Shaft, um, I mean Fury his "rising from the ashes" moment at the end, but why on earth would he have his gear in all those separate compartments, when he could have stuffed them all into one?
I get that they needed to give Shaft, um, I mean Fury his "rising from the ashes" moment at the end, but why on earth would he have his gear in all those separate compartments, when he could have stuffed them all into one?
Why did you bring up the fact that Jackson had once played Shaft? Why? Why do so many pop culture fans always make blaxploitation jokes about black actors in major sci-fi/fantasy roles even to this day?
I wasn't making a blaxploitation joke. I was referring to the fact that they shoehorned in a "I'm a badass and I'm back" scene and I need a needlessly drawn out scene to remind everyone of that. His turn as Shaft was all about that.
Yeah, that bothered me, too. Hell, the fact that he had those stored in the crypt at all was a little weird.
The Harvest, I get, but the rest felt like a bad reveal just like Priscilla getting her gun from the bank deposit....which now looks even dumber since we now know she had a whole arsenal in her house.
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No. No. Why do we need that?
Which is exactly what I was asking.
Man, this show continues to be so disappointing.
Does Priscilla live in the UK? Because if not, the fast travel in Episode 5 is completely nonsensical, with G'iah somehow meeting with Fury in London, going to pick up her father's body (how did Fury get this exactly?), then bringing it and herself to a house in the...U.S.? WTF?
Gravik was super disappointing, too, here. I thought they were going for him being a darker version of Karli from TFATWS, but it seems like he's actually just a piece of shit who will kill all the other Skrulls to get Avengers powers? If that's the case, why even build up the themes around Fury letting down the poor Skrulls, to begin with?
Does Priscilla live in the UK? Because if not, the fast travel in Episode 5 is completely nonsensical, with G'iah somehow meeting with Fury in London, going to pick up her father's body (how did Fury get this exactly?), then bringing it and herself to a house in the...U.S.? WTF?
Gravik was super disappointing, too, here. I thought they were going for him being a darker version of Karli from TFATWS, but it seems like he's actually just a piece of shit who will kill all the other Skrulls to get Avengers powers? If that's the case, why even build up the themes around Fury letting down the poor Skrulls, to begin with?
I'd have leaned into the potential for paranoia and cross/double cross a hell of a lot more. We should be wondering, even now, whose side various people are on but it's been obvious from day one. Everyone is exactly who or what they appear to be. Oh they've tried to play that G'iah and Priscilla were on Gravik's side but did anyone genuinely expect they'd be against Fury for long?
This could have been Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy meets The Thing, but instead it's some generic action spy thriller written by someone who hasn't seen many spy thrillers.
Everything feels rushed, and when you factor in many of the episodes have been around 35 minutes I wonder what the actual run time will be in the end? Feels like they've chopped it into six parts because streaming, when this could have been a two hour/2.5 hour long film or maybe a three episode miniseries
So... I guess all of you who said Talos wasn't dead were wrong. 
Who was Furry talking to at the end? Gravik or someone else?
Yeah, i guess so. .. very sad... unless we find out something different. They made it a point to say that even Skrulls won't be able to tell the difference if someone holds a form long enough. Hopefully that comes into play.... if not the show then the pitch meetingSo... I guess all of you who said Talos wasn't dead were wrong.
I mean, I would like to see that line come into play, but I'm not sure how it could give any hope for Talos specifically? We've seen him change repeatedly over the course of the show, so he certainly hasn't been holding a form long enough to fool anyone. Unless he has a twin skrull that looks exactly like him in his natural form and we haven't actually seen Talos at all the whole time, which would be pretty lame.
So no one can defend the Earth like Nick Fury?
Then why do you bother to create the Avengers Initiative in the first place?
I don't see why they are using six episodes for this it could have been done in two or three and probably would have been a little less boring. But that's my take.
Then why do you bother to create the Avengers Initiative in the first place?
I don't see why they are using six episodes for this it could have been done in two or three and probably would have been a little less boring. But that's my take.
We're clearly meant to think it's Gravik, that Fury's calling him out. Fury just made a big production of "I have to do this on my own, no help from my Super Friends," so it's unlikely to be, say, Carol, Monica, Daisy Johnson or LMD Coulson. Too late to be bringing in a new major character anyway. Can't be a resurrected Maria/Talos because someone will ask 'Well, why didn't you bring the other one back then?"
Just to be different, and because they'll want it to be a surprise, we'll say it's Everett Ross (the real one).
I assumed that was the point. Karli had way too many people saying, "She's not a villain."
So they made Gravik a genocidal monster.
I think people didn't buy Karli as the villain because they were clearly building up John Walker as the twist antagonist until they got scared and walked it all back in the final episode with an unearned redemption.
Cap vs. anti-cap is way more compelling than an idealist young left wing woman who randomly decides to start killing people, just because.
"So a franchise can happen."
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