Spoilers SDCC season 3 news thread!

[T'Bonz]

I'm thrilled about the Pike/Spock shorts. It's not the series I want, but perhaps they're gauging interest and perhaps a series will come from it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

"Cleveland Booker"

Is Cleveland a normal person name in the USA? I have only heard it before as the name of a city.

It's not unheard of. But it is usually a surname.

Cleveland Brooker... way to start, Disco Season 3. Because, yeah, in 1000 years we can expect people to have still XX century names and last names. Wow, just WOW. I have been questioning Discovery writers since season 1, and things are just falling off the cliff.

Is this a serious complaint? Characters with names we recognize? So it would be better as "K'Leev'nd BkEEr ?

 

[fireproof78]

So it would be better as "K'Leev'nd BkEEr ?

I'm sure some might prefer it.

 

[Jinn]

It's not unheard of. But it is usually a surname.

Is this a serious complaint? Characters with names we recognize? So it would be better as "K'Leev'nd BkEEr ?

"I am V'Leev'nd BkEEr of the V'Draysh, nice to meet you."

 

[rhllot]

Cleveland Brooker... way to start, Disco Season 3. Because, yeah, in 1000 years we can expect people to have still XX century names and last names. Wow, just WOW. I have been questioning Discovery writers since season 1, and things are just falling off the cliff.

You know, going 1k years into the future is risky for the franchise. First, you risk making all the past canon irrelevant. And second, you would expect things to be so drastically different, that depiction of this alien future could fail easily. Why didn't they pick a more reasonable 2-300 years into the future? Think about how things are different now compared to the XI century. Culturally, visually, scientifically... Plus, they are now messing with a period of time already touched by ENT with the Temporal Cold War. I can honestly see this going very bad, very quickly. Lots of downside, very little upside.

What made TNG so successful with fans was, IMO, that while in the future it wasn't that far off from TOS to be unrecognizable. 100 years are a good time frame where lots of change can happen, but everything can still be tied back to the old stories.

Now, 1k years is a HUGE gap. All we know could well be irrelevant, but the gap is so large that so many things could have happened that all that happened in the past lost relevance. Like you were living in the Roman Empire, and next thing you now you are in the USSR. You lose completely context and relevance... UNLESS... the past is somewhat used as foundation for the present (i.e., Roman and Greek civilization were the foundation of modern Western Society).

If in the far future the Federation didn't exist anymore (or the ideals/concept inspired by them), then Discovery Season 3 would totally be a waste of everyone's time and another bad attempt to reboot the franchise. Which, honestly, has been underwhelming since the beginning, plagued by rushed screenplay and very poor character development.

I am as excited about Picard and Lower Decks as I am totally not looking forward to Disco Season 3.

the federation can be the basis of the V'draysh, they can be similar in some things and very different in others. A language spoken by them is English, at least we know that!

 

[Nerys Myk]

"I am V'Leev'nd BkEEr of the V'Draysh, nice to meet you."

I think you mean "Eh oom V'Leev'nd BkEEr uv tee V'Draysh, nys tw miit u."

 

[Enterprise is Great]

In my lifetime, I've met four different men named Jim Kirk.

Never met a Jim Kirk before but I met a James Bond once.

 

[NeoStar9]

Cleveland Brooker... way to start, Disco Season 3. Because, yeah, in 1000 years we can expect people to have still XX century names and last names. Wow, just WOW. I have been questioning Discovery writers since season 1, and things are just falling off the cliff.

It's crazy that this is a statement that was actually typed. Seriously!? The history of names today is very long. For example William as a name has existed since the 11th century, actually before that if you account for different spellings based on area. If this character was an alien then he should have an alien sounding name but he appears to be human so him having a human sounding name when human names today have existed and lasted hundreds of years makes complete sense. Them lasting hundreds of years into the future again is completely reasonable.

 

[Cake]

An article about the DIS panel with a lot of quotes:

https://trekmovie.com/2019/07/21/sd...ery-panel-promises-huge-changes-for-season-3/

 

[donners22]

An article about the DIS panel with a lot of quotes:

https://trekmovie.com/2019/07/21/sd...ery-panel-promises-huge-changes-for-season-3/

Not a lot of substance, though.

I wish Kurtzman would shut up about Gene’s Vision TM, about which I could not care less, and just talk about the show.

I really like Discovery, but the focus on appeasement will drag it down, and already has to a degree.

 

[Lord Garth]

It's crazy that this is a statement that was actually typed. Seriously!? The history of names today is very long. For example William as a name has existed since the 11th century, actually before that if you account for different spellings based on area. If this character was an alien then he should have an alien sounding name but he appears to be human so him having a human sounding name when human names today have existed and lasted hundreds of years makes complete sense. Them lasting hundreds of years into the future again is completely reasonable.

Look at it this way. If all he can do is complain about names, we're in a pretty good position. The more forced the criticisms are, and the further they have to reach, the better things are going.

 

[eschaton]

Not a lot of substance, though.

I wish Kurtzman would shut up about Gene’s Vision TM, about which I could not care less, and just talk about the show.

I really like Discovery, but the focus on appeasement will drag it down, and already has to a degree.

Honestly, the way that Kurtzman talks about it makes it sound like how the season turns out past the first few episodes is still in flux. As opposed to Picard, where you can tell they're just blockading a bunch of stuff they already know.

Which kind of makes sense of course, given Picard's first season seems to be much further along than Discovery Season 3.

 

[fireproof78]

I really like Discovery, but the focus on appeasement will drag it down, and already has to a degree.

That's what Picard feels like.

Appeasement is getting tiresome.

 

[SCE2Aux]

When Kurtzman says things along the lines of 'people are wondering whether we're going to go dark' for season three, coupled with 'things are going to be very different in the future' but 'we'll stay true to Gene's vision, makes me strongly suspect that they are going to do a fall-of-the-federation storyline. The rough nature of Booker's clothing is also contributing to this vibe I'm getting.

My guess is that the Discovery crew will take it upon themselves to reintroduce Federation values that have gotten lost in the intervening centuries.

It would be one heck of a storyline, very ballsy, if it's handled well.

Whatever the storyline turns out to be, I'm very much looking forward to season 3!

 

[F. King Daniel]

They can't get DiscoSpock's Vulcan bowl cut right. It's too curved at the sides this time.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

They can't get DiscoSpock's Vulcan bowl cut right. It's too curved at the sides this time.

Probably because Amanda has been cutting it. One of the short treks will be about Spock finding a Barber where he can get his hair did just right.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I'm thrilled about the Pike/Spock shorts.

 

[Hythlodeus]

I still hope the DISCO crew will return to their era halfway through the season. 1k years into the future doesn't sound interesting at all

 

[cultcross]

I strongly suspect this is a permanent thing; the "explanation" for Discovery's canon wobbles sort of relies on that.

 

[eschaton]

They can't get DiscoSpock's Vulcan bowl cut right. It's too curved at the sides this time.

His haircut needs to be 25% different.

I strongly suspect this is a permanent thing; the "explanation" for Discovery's canon wobbles sort of relies on that.

I think it's possible that if Discovery is eventually canceled they'll find some way to get a few characters back to the 23rd century (which presumably they're doing with Georgiou). Basically parceling out the fan favorites to the Section 31 show and/or an Pike Enterprise show. Not Michael of course, but maybe Saru, Tilly, Stamets, Culber, etc.