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Scruffy-looking untitled Han Solo film thread

Ron's strength is a film maker is that he does not have a discernible style he brings to all the movies he makes. He puts the story and genre above himself. He is perfect for this situation. I wish he had been hired from the beginning.
 
Reverend said:
There's definitely been some nightmare shoots in Hollywood history and some directors who've been unfairly treated, but I don't think I've ever heard of something like this, on this high profile a movie *and* this late into production.
So far as I'm aware Kathleen Kennedy isn't exactly known for being capricious or fickle and she's easily only of the most successful producers in the business. So as much as I love their other work, in this instance I have to conclude that the directors are the source of the problem.
What I suspect is that they weren't able to fully appreciate that they were playing in someone else's sandbox and those toys they were playing with didn't really belong to them. With the best intentions, I'm sure. Clearly they want to make a good movie but Lucasfilm has to protect the franchise as a whole and I can easily see those two interests conflicting.

Whatever the situation is (and I doubt we're likely to hear the full details anytime soon), I don't envy whomever they get to step in a salvage this mess.
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I was pretty surprised when they were announced as the directors because their style is so different from what we got in the other SW movies.
Reverend said:
That doesn't sound too unreasonable. For one thing it allows the productions to overlap, even collaborate without risking putting too much workload on one crew. You don't want your director getting too burnt out with such a breakneck turnaround.

I think I even saw some clickbait headline somewhere about how supposedly the ep IX people have already asked for some shots or scenes for their movie be done by the TLJ crew. Presumably either for continuity or budgetary/scheduling efficiency reasons. Indeed, IIRC I think the final scene in RotS was actually shot (at least in part) during the AotC shoot, mostly because Lucas didn't think it made sense to come all the way back out to Tunisia for about 60 seconds of film.
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Yeah, I read the story on one of the sites I go to, and I think it just said that Colin Trevorrow, the director of EPIX wanted them to do one quick scene in one of their locations, because it wouldn't be worth dragging the whole IX production there for one short scene.
As for TFA and TLJ, originally BB-8 was with Rey at the end when she found Luke, but Rian Johnson, the director of TLJ, asked that they change it so he was back with Poe.
 
The entire Han Solo standalone film concept has been about as appealing to me as a prequel to Growing Pains showing how Jason Seaver got his psychiatric degree and met Maggie. I didn't ask for it. Most fans don't seem to want it. That said, I'm so glad the film is finally in competent hands.

Perhaps now it'll be something that's watchable.
 
cooleddie74 said:
The entire Han Solo standalone film concept has been about as appealing to me as a prequel to Growing Pains showing how Jason Seaver got his psychiatric degree and met Maggie. I didn't ask for it. Most fans don't seem to want it. That said, I'm so glad the film is finally in competent hands.

Perhaps now it'll be something that's watchable.
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How can anyone watch The Lego Movie and call these guys incompetent?!?
 
Honestly, I think the Han Solo Movies should be a trilogy under the heading of Star Wars "scoundrels" episode 1 Smuggler's Gambit or some catchy title. it would be the perfect way to explore the seedy underbelly of the outer rim areas with gangsters like the Hutts, and explore Han's and Lando's history with Bobba Fett, and other bounty hunters and gangs in space. Like a Martin Scorsese flick set in space. Instead of a one off.
 
Captain of the USS Averof said:
And they let them shoot Han "Ace Ventura" Solo for 5 months before realizing what they were doing and finally firing them? Give me a break!
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For all we know there were daily talks between the directors and the studio where they were told every day to get on a different track.
Also, the movie hasn't been filming for 5 months, it's been in production for 5 months. That means rehearsel and setbuilding and what not was happening before actual filming.
From what has been gathered from some sources now, at the beginning everything was still pretty much scripted, but after a while the directors basicly let the actors improv and added to the story and script. That's when the studio stepped in. And I can't blaim them.
In the end, as much as we like to only watch them as movies, these aren't just movies. They are a billion-dollar industry, with loads of money invested, and loads of people depending on a good outcome for this movie. If two lads fuck it over because they wanna have fun, you're fucking with the lifelyhood and income of quite a few people. You want to do your own creative thing, go make indie-movies. You wanna make a Star Wars movie? Better get with the program. They knew this going in, so they should have simply done what they were told.
 
Mage said:
Also, the movie hasn't been filming for 5 months, it's been in production for 5 months. That means rehearsel and setbuilding and what not was happening before actual filming.
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Well, if we want to be precise about it:

Filming began on January 30, 2017,[38] at Pinewood Studios,[30] under the working title Star Wars: Red Cup.[38] Lucasfilm announced that principal photography started on February 20, 2017.[6]

Mage said:
In the end, as much as we like to only watch them as movies, these aren't just movies. They are a billion-dollar industry, with loads of money invested, and loads of people depending on a good outcome for this movie. If two lads fuck it over because they wanna have fun, you're fucking with the lifelyhood and income of quite a few people. You want to do your own creative thing, go make indie-movies. You wanna make a Star Wars movie? Better get with the program. They knew this going in, so they should have simply done what they were told.
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Kinda my point then. You've expressed it more eloquently than me. How the heck did they let them fuck it up so much ("Ace Fucking Ventura"?) for so long (4-5 months) before doing something about it! This is the mighty Mouse we're talking about!
 
Captain of the USS Averof said:
Well, if we want to be precise about it:

Filming began on January 30, 2017,[38] at Pinewood Studios,[30] under the working title Star Wars: Red Cup.[38] Lucasfilm announced that principal photography started on February 20, 2017.[6]



Kinda my point then. You've expressed it more eloquently than me. How the heck did they let them fuck it up so much ("Ace Fucking Ventura"?) for so long (4-5 months) before doing something about it! This is the mighty Mouse we're talking about!
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Well first off, I stand totally corrected. I was not aware they were actually filming for so long already!! Most movies are done filming in 90-110 days these days. So wow.....

And yes, going from that, you are totally correct in your 'gimme break' statement. I thought actually filming only started about 6 weeks ago or so. That makes it very odd that Disney let this go on for so long.
 
Mage said:
Well first off, I stand totally corrected. I was not aware they were actually filming for so long already!! Most movies are done filming in 90-110 days these days. So wow.....

And yes, going from that, you are totally correct in your 'gimme break' statement. I thought actually filming only started about 6 weeks ago or so. That makes it very odd that Disney let this go on for so long.
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Which is why I don't buy the "Ace Ventura" story (which reeks of damage control / a planted story) one bit.

Disney is not run by idiots. You don't fire your directors with three weeks left to go, and in doing so put yourself in the position of having to go through a very long, very expensive arbitration process with the DGA, unless something huge happened.
 
Timby said:
Which is why I don't buy the "Ace Ventura" story (which reeks of damage control / a planted story) one bit.

Disney is not run by idiots. You don't fire your directors with three weeks left to go, and in doing so put yourself in the position of having to go through a very long, very expensive arbitration process with the DGA, unless something huge happened.
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Yeah, knowing what I know now, it's very weird indeed. If it had only been a few weeks like I thought at first.... but no. This is very odd.
 
Could be something unrelated to the direction of the film, but a potential scandal that they wanted to sweep away long before it hits the news.
 
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