Han Solo is doomed. Star Wars is finished. Disney should let the rights revert back to Fox.
Scruffy-looking untitled Han Solo film thread
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Likewise. Jurassic World was a mess of excess and nostalgia.Boy, I'd love for Trevorrow to be dropped from SW, but I doubt that will happen.
It's a good thing it's Star Wars, and thus any additional costs will be made up within 30 seconds of theatrical release.
By most accounts this is a matter of tone and character. Kasdan didn't like how they were misusing his script and gleefully departing from it to allow the cast to improvise on set and thought their take on Solo was entirely wrong. Given his pedigree with the brand and genre, I'd probably show him deference as well in spite of how talented I think Lord and Miller are. Kennedy didn't have many great options here but I trust she made the best of the situation.
Not art, commerce. This is a billion dollar franchise now, and no studio is going to want something that deviates from the franchise.
Personally, as someone who isn't impressed by Edgar Wright's movies, I'm glad he left. Ant-Man is a MCU movie, not (to use a phrase I've seen others use) his personal toybox. He doesn't like having to be part of the MCU, then he doesn't get to do the movie, and good riddance. Peyton Reed did a great job, almost certainly better then Wright would have, and he didn't have any problems with it being an MCU movie. If Wright couldn't deal with the MCU connections, which were done well in the final Ant-Man movie, then he wasn't the person to make the movie. In that situation, Wright was the problem, not the people running the MCU.
Plus, being "art" doesn't make it good. Whose to say that their more comedy take wasn't completely wrong for Han? The studio isn't always wrong, and the Star Wars people are very good at knowing Star Wars. If they say the Solo movie was getting too comedic, I'm going to believe them unless evidence to the contrary is given.
I don't know who was right or wrong in this situation. But I will say that my deference or admiration for Larry Kasdan disappeared with "The Force Awakens". Considering his past work with STAR WARS in the late 70s and 80s, I was very disappointed.
They were fired for this? Are you sure? Because aside from a few scenes in "The Empire Strikes Back" and one scene in "The Force Awakens", Han Solo has more or less been comic relief to me.
The explanation I saw -- I think it was in a Variety article -- is that Han should be wry and sarcastic, not outright comical.
Sorry, it was Hollywood Reporter.
Kasdan may have rewritten Empire, but he also wrote and directed Dreamcatcher, Darling Companion and Wyatt Earp. Dude isn't infallible.
Here's the part that makes no sense to me: Outside of the standard reshoots that Disney always books for its movies (I think they set a few weeks in September for that), there were three weeks left to go on shooting the Han Solo movie. They've been in principal photography since January.
So why do you fire them six months after you start filming, when the thing is nearly finished? If Lord / Miller and Kennedy / Kasdan were clashing so much, you'd think that would have come up in pre-production as all parties discussed their approaches to the film, and certainly within the first few weeks or first month of shooting. It's not like Kennedy and others weren't seeing dailies, and obviously, Kennedy was on the set throughout production.
So the overriding question in my mind is: Why now? What could possibly have been the straw that broke the camel's back, here? Did they set an effigy of Carrie Fisher on fire like some unholy Star Wars Wicker Man or something?
Yeah, that's always sounded fishy to me, too. I can't help but wonder if Feige wanted Wright to tone down his hyper editing style, to deliver a more classically-directed feel than, say, Scott Pilgrim. If that's the case, I vote for Feige; Scott Pilgrim gave me a headache, and I didn't even watch the whole thing.
I don't know why anyone would have expected any other policy - particularly given how safe and bland Rebels and TFA are. Shocking suggestion: if you want to make a distinctive, quirky film... maybe make an original one?
So uhh... can we just give Episode IX to Patty Jenkins and leave that Han Solo movie unfinished?
I'd support that, for sure.
I'd support that, for sure.
I have a bad feeling about this...
(Oh come on, somebody was bound to say it!
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Seriously though, while I'm determined to reserve judgement until it hits theatres, I honestly wasn't really on-board for this movie from the get-go. I'd much rather the anthology movies expand the scope of Star Wars cinema, not contract it. This is the kind of thing I'd much rather see covered as a novel or something.
I'm just a little shocked to see a falling out this late in production. I mean you'd think both parties knew what the other wanted out of this project before signing off on it.
(Oh come on, somebody was bound to say it!
)Seriously though, while I'm determined to reserve judgement until it hits theatres, I honestly wasn't really on-board for this movie from the get-go. I'd much rather the anthology movies expand the scope of Star Wars cinema, not contract it. This is the kind of thing I'd much rather see covered as a novel or something.
I'm just a little shocked to see a falling out this late in production. I mean you'd think both parties knew what the other wanted out of this project before signing off on it.
Yeah, the duo being fired because they were deviating too much from the script and making Han "too funny" doesn't really make a lot of sense to me, either. If that's the real reason, and Kasdan and Kennedy were unhappy with this direction, why did Lucasfilm wait until there were only three weeks left before making this move?
I also agree about the Trevorrow situation. Frankly I never really understood why Lucasfilm jumped on a director for Episode IX so quickly, when Episode VII hadn't even released yet. If TLJ is turning out as well as it's sounding right now, maybe they should have tried to get Rian Johnson to do IX as well. I think he even wrote the treatment for it.
I also agree about the Trevorrow situation. Frankly I never really understood why Lucasfilm jumped on a director for Episode IX so quickly, when Episode VII hadn't even released yet. If TLJ is turning out as well as it's sounding right now, maybe they should have tried to get Rian Johnson to do IX as well. I think he even wrote the treatment for it.
Yeah, I'm with you guys, it's really weird that it would take them this long to realize that they didn't like what Lord and Miller were doing. I understand that Star Wars has a specific style they like to stick to, so you'd think that they would hire people who were going to follow that style. These guys are really well known now, so you'd think Kennedy and co. would have been aware of who they were hiring and what kind of movies they make.
Why does Patty Jenkins have to direct Episode IX? Why does the current director of Episode IX have to be replaced? Because he recently had a movie that flopped? One lousy movie?
Why do people overreact in this manner when it comes to reading the entertainment news?
Easy there fella, no need to overreact!
