Scruffy-looking untitled Han Solo film thread
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Maybe Ferrell and Murphy can team up someday for a post-ROTJ adventure. I'd fucking watch it!
I think the worst thing is Disney even allowed Lord/Miller thing to even happen.
I mean, unless Disney operates in a different way, writers have to pitch the story, there are talks with the directors on how they envision it, storyboards, etc. Surely they knew this direction was coming and approved it. Thankfully somebody realized the errors in their ways and canned it before it reached the theater.
Sorry, but I'm still pissed about the prequels and the thing that is Jar Jar Binks. I don't want Star Wars to attempt off-thecuff "funny" after the sour taste Jar Jar left in my mouth (and no, that's not a pun, you dirty-minded...).
I mean, unless Disney operates in a different way, writers have to pitch the story, there are talks with the directors on how they envision it, storyboards, etc. Surely they knew this direction was coming and approved it. Thankfully somebody realized the errors in their ways and canned it before it reached the theater.
Sorry, but I'm still pissed about the prequels and the thing that is Jar Jar Binks. I don't want Star Wars to attempt off-thecuff "funny" after the sour taste Jar Jar left in my mouth (and no, that's not a pun, you dirty-minded...).
DIference is these guys know how to do humor which is something that can't be said of with George Lucas. I don't see anything wrong with doing a funny movie. I'm not sure about the guy who is playing Solo but we do know Donald Glover can do comedy.
Jason
Humour is also massively subjective, so they might have been doing things they find funny, but everyone else, not so much.
For example, the opening 20 minutes or so of ROTS. The joking and banter between Obi-Wan and Anakin, the silly droids. I chuckled a bit, but thought it felt a bit to much for Star Wars. Other loved it, others downright hated it. You can't please everyone.
That's true but since the directors had a proven track record with humor and audiences liking it I would think that even if they at the studio didn't find it funny, that others might find it funny which to me sort of goes back to the issue of trust.
Replacing them feels more like the studio trying to play it safe instead of allowing someone to try and do something different which seems kind of unnecessary because the movie is going to be critic proof. It will make all the money in the world just like any Star Wars film and it's a standalone movie and not part of the main saga. If you can't experiment then I got to wonder when you can do it.
Jason
Looking through their Director credits, I wouldn't call what they've done a proven track record (by a long shot.)
The 21 Jumpstreet movies and the Lego Movie is a pretty good resume all by themselves. All of them are terrific comedies and to top it off they were surprising good because nobody felt like any of those movies would be any good.
Jason
I've seen the latter and not the former and to be honest, saying someone (or in their case - sometwo) has a track record with two is damning with faint praise given they have directed a grand total of four films.
Again, humour is wholely subjective, as are opinions too - not like you probably need reminding of that though.
I agree on the subjective part but I was looking more along the lines as to how those movies were seen by viewers. Some people I am sure didn't like them or some of them but I do think they are more liked than disliked as a whole.
As for my humor I thought it was a fact that it was liked and not subjective!
I sure with a little work I can get my opinions elevated as facts as well!Jason
Disney hired the 21 Jump Street directors for Han Solo but were shocked when they got 21 Jump Street in Space with Han and Lando?!?
The thing to keep in mind is that this is an established character, and yes he was one of the more jokey, sarcastic characters, but it's still a pretty big leap to turn him into a full on comedic character.
I don't think there's anything wrong with doing a comedy in the Star Wars universe, but you have to be careful how you do it that you don't undermine the established characters and more serious movies.
I right off the top of my head I can think of three ways that would work best.
1: Set it apart from the other movies, with completely new characters.
2: Use the main characters, but make it non-canon, so you have to freedom to make them more overtly comedic. This approach was going to be used for the unproduced Detour animated series.
3: Canon story where the characters and their personalities are the same, but they are put ridiculous situations. I can't think of any Star Wars examples of this off the top of my head, but Trek does this a lot with stuff like The Voyage Home, and Little Green Men.
If there's one thing that Jar Jar Binks has shown us, it's that there's no place for slapstick in Star Wars.
Besides, Disney has Guardians of the Galaxy and the rest of the Marvel Superheroes for silly comedy.
Besides, Disney has Guardians of the Galaxy and the rest of the Marvel Superheroes for silly comedy.
I wouldn't say that.
Leaving the popularity and success of the PT aside, and its loud detractors notwithstanding, R2's keeling over after being shot by the Jawas in the original SW brought laughter from audiences, Yoda engaged in slapstick with R2 and while tossing objects around when he first appeared in TESB, and ROTJ was still successful despite all of the clumsy, amusing things that the Ewoks did, their detractors notwithstanding also.
I agree that a Han Solo movie shouldn't be slapstick humor but I wonder if that is what was being made or if was a case of people above not caring about humor at all or not getting any of the jokes. We might not ever know unless any of the filmed stuff they don't use gets leaked or put on a blu ray disk as a extra. I suspect it will get out somehow.
Jason
And Star Wars didn't have its silly comedy moments, even in the OT?
There's a big difference between a movie having "heavy humor" and being an outright comed, the big thing is the tone and the style of the movie. The mainline Star Wars movies do have a specific tone and style, and I can understand why they might have wanted this movie to stick closer to that.