Scott Pilgrim Vs The World Discussion Thread

[MeanJoePhaser]

It means Golan-Globus can make a comeback!

Also, that people will stop paying nerds to write movies and pay like Shane Black, instead.

 

[Timby]

To be fair, it is a bit of a niche movie. Sadly, those of us who are young and full of awesome are a dying breed.

Maybe your shitty tastes in movies are terminal.

To be fair, it is a bit of a niche movie. Sadly, those of us who are young and full of awesome are a dying breed.

But we never even got a chance to be a living breed!

Yeah, it's a good thing abortions are legal and common.

Classy. Quite classy. The crack about shitty taste in movies, not cool but not horrible. The abortion line, though, that really pushes it over the edge. Infraction for trolling. As always, direct comments to private messages.

 

[RoJoHen]

I never realized being a nerd was such a bad thing on a Star Trek message board.

 

[Arrqh]

Seems like a good time for this article.

Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World may be one of the most heavily previewed movies in years. Promo screenings, preview screenings, Comic-Con ... it feels at times like everyone who really cares about it has seen it by now — and the reviews have been rolling in for quite some time.

Full disclosure: I think it's great.

I also think it's so heavily stylized that it's bound not to be everyone's favorite film. It's not aiming to be liked by all; it's aiming to be adored by many. If director Edgar Wright weren't okay with the film's being polarizing, he'd have backed off from some of its delightful little quirks.

But I have to say to those reviewing it: what's completely unnecessary is being hostile and condescending about the target audience — and I can say that, because I'm emphatically not part of it.

Full article. One review actually said he found Cera's performance annoying because the audience was laughing too much. If people are being offended that the audience is laughing in a comedy then maybe the problem isn't really the movie.

Overall though, the movie has done very well critically... it's at an 81% on RT and it couldn't get that high without mainstream reviewers getting on board.

 

[RoJoHen]

One review actually said he found Cera's performance annoying because the audience was laughing too much.

I love that he refers to the laughter as Pavlovian, as if the audience laughed because they were trained to. I'm sorry, but this reviewer just seems like an asshole who is bitter at the world.

God forbid people have fun at the movies!

 

[TheBrew]

Seems like a good time for this article.

Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World may be one of the most heavily previewed movies in years. Promo screenings, preview screenings, Comic-Con ... it feels at times like everyone who really cares about it has seen it by now — and the reviews have been rolling in for quite some time.

Full disclosure: I think it's great.

I also think it's so heavily stylized that it's bound not to be everyone's favorite film. It's not aiming to be liked by all; it's aiming to be adored by many. If director Edgar Wright weren't okay with the film's being polarizing, he'd have backed off from some of its delightful little quirks.

But I have to say to those reviewing it: what's completely unnecessary is being hostile and condescending about the target audience — and I can say that, because I'm emphatically not part of it.

Full article. One review actually said he found Cera's performance annoying because the audience was laughing too much. If people are being offended that the audience is laughing in a comedy then maybe the problem isn't really the movie.

Overall though, the movie has done very well critically... it's at an 81% on RT and it couldn't get that high without mainstream reviewers getting on board.

I just don't get the antagonism. It's a great movie if you are the targeted audience, but it is obviously not for everyone. I don't think my grandmother would like it.

 

[RoJoHen]

I think people are just cranky that the movie wasn't intended for them. Not every movie needs to appeal to the masses.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

Mary Elizabeth Winstead is in it? I'm so there!

She is indeed.

I was also quite impressed with Ellen Wong as Knives Chau.

Spoiler: Ellen Wong/Knives Chau Pictures

Plus, Ellen Wong is a martial artist for real, with the green belt in taekwondo to prove it!

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Seems like a good time for this article.

Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World may be one of the most heavily previewed movies in years. Promo screenings, preview screenings, Comic-Con ... it feels at times like everyone who really cares about it has seen it by now — and the reviews have been rolling in for quite some time.

Full disclosure: I think it's great.

I also think it's so heavily stylized that it's bound not to be everyone's favorite film. It's not aiming to be liked by all; it's aiming to be adored by many. If director Edgar Wright weren't okay with the film's being polarizing, he'd have backed off from some of its delightful little quirks.

But I have to say to those reviewing it: what's completely unnecessary is being hostile and condescending about the target audience — and I can say that, because I'm emphatically not part of it.

Full article. One review actually said he found Cera's performance annoying because the audience was laughing too much. If people are being offended that the audience is laughing in a comedy then maybe the problem isn't really the movie.

Overall though, the movie has done very well critically... it's at an 81% on RT and it couldn't get that high without mainstream reviewers getting on board.

I just don't get the antagonism. It's a great movie if you are the targeted audience, but it is obviously not for everyone. I don't think my grandmother would like it.

I don't get it, either. I mean, God forbid a movie be proud to be nerdy. I suspect there's a lot of insecurity involved in the reviewers.

I also resent the implication that it's only entertaining for teenagers or people who are developmentally arrested. I'm 29, I loved it. I saw it with a woman who is 33 and she loved it, too. And I don't think you could say either of us are socially screwed up or anything. We have jobs, social lives, get out regularly, and know how to have fun. In fact, very few of the people in the audience at the showing we saw looked anything like nerd stereotypes. They all looked like fairly typical young adults.

It's kind of interesting that critics can't attack the movie on its own merits, but instead have to insult the people it's aimed to entertain, as if we don't deserve to be entertained.

 

[RoJoHen]

Damn those nerds for enjoying themselves. Damn them all!

 

[Dusty Ayres]

Seems like a good time for this article.

Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World may be one of the most heavily previewed movies in years. Promo screenings, preview screenings, Comic-Con ... it feels at times like everyone who really cares about it has seen it by now — and the reviews have been rolling in for quite some time.

Full disclosure: I think it's great.

I also think it's so heavily stylized that it's bound not to be everyone's favorite film. It's not aiming to be liked by all; it's aiming to be adored by many. If director Edgar Wright weren't okay with the film's being polarizing, he'd have backed off from some of its delightful little quirks.

But I have to say to those reviewing it: what's completely unnecessary is being hostile and condescending about the target audience — and I can say that, because I'm emphatically not part of it.

Full article. One review actually said he found Cera's performance annoying because the audience was laughing too much. If people are being offended that the audience is laughing in a comedy then maybe the problem isn't really the movie.

Overall though, the movie has done very well critically... it's at an 81% on RT and it couldn't get that high without mainstream reviewers getting on board.

These quoted reviews is one reason why I don't ever bother with film reviewers at all anymore-most of them are snobs.

If you think that these reviews were nasty, wait until the radical feminist blogsphere gets a hold of this movie; the bitching will be mega-big.

FWIW, I loved this movie, and I know that it will clean up at the Teen Choice, People's Choice and MTV Movie Awards next year.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

I also resent the implication that it's only entertaining for teenagers or people who are developmentally arrested.

The truth hurts.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I also resent the implication that it's only entertaining for teenagers or people who are developmentally arrested.

The truth hurts.

You are a silly person.

 

[Neroon]

I also resent the implication that it's only entertaining for teenagers or people who are developmentally arrested.

The truth hurts.

Infractino for trolling. Comments to PM

 

[David cgc]

If you think that these reviews were nasty, wait until the radical feminist blogsphere gets a hold of this movie; the bitching will be mega-big.

Oh, that'll be fun. As we were leaving, one of my friends mentioned it was a little... let's say old-fashioned that...

Spoiler: Old-fashioned things

... Scott just took it as read that Ramona would get back with him at the end if he kicked Gideon's ass hard enough. However, I pointed out that the fact that she moved to a different country to get away from Gideon, and her evasive tone when she left with him were a sign things weren't quite on the level. And then, the fact that Gideon had her sitting at his feet, in a collar, like a dog, that would've been a bit of a giveaway.

Not that that'd stop anyone from digging up far-fetched examples of the terrible, terrible misogyny and chauvinism of the story. I remember those Firefly reviews.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

If you think that these reviews were nasty, wait until the radical feminist blogsphere gets a hold of this movie; the bitching will be mega-big.

Oh, that'll be fun. As we were leaving, one of my friends mentioned it was a little... let's say old-fashioned that...

Spoiler: Old-fashioned things

... Scott just took it as read that Ramona would get back with him at the end if he kicked Gideon's ass hard enough. However, I pointed out that the fact that she moved to a different country to get away from Gideon, and her evasive tone when she left with him were a sign things weren't quite on the level. And then, the fact that Gideon had her sitting at his feet, in a collar, like a dog, that would've been a bit of a giveaway.

Not that that'd stop anyone from digging up far-fetched examples of the terrible, terrible misogyny and chauvinism of the story. I remember those Firefly reviews.

I have to admit I was thinking about some of that stuff while I was watching.

Spoiler: various spoilers

Scott was doing all this for the attention of a girl he really knew nothing about. He took on the "knight in shining armor" mantle thinking that would win her over. Probably the only smart thing he did in the whole movie was realize he was a bit of a douche for two-timing Ramona and Knives, however briefly.

He did get a quasi-happy ending, but I left the theater pretty certain that any relationship between him and Ramona was hopelessly doomed.

I still enjoyed it for what it was, and personally I thought it was a nice change of pace to have it be the basically "good guy" go after the "bad girl" and have it blow up in his face--repeatedly. And he kept coming back for more.

So, while I liked the movie quite a bit, I sure hope nobody thinks it is any kind of example of a functional, healthy relationship.

 

[ITL]

Edgar Wright tweeted this, today:

For the record, am pretty damn happy to have a Top 5 movie and a top 5 album in the US. Never had either before.

And that gives me a happy. Looking forward to seeing it!

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Gonna have to stop reading this thread now, so's not to get spoiled on it.

 

[RoJoHen]

I also resent the implication that it's only entertaining for teenagers or people who are developmentally arrested.

The truth hurts.

Have you even seen it yet, or are you still just pissy because the internet has ads?

 

[gblews]

I am WAY outside of the movie's demographic and I thought it was great. Haven't read the books either. I was laughing my ass off. Even the movies' cuts were funny. Loved the unique way the music was handled, "D D D D" - pure gold. I was a little shocked (and not in a bad way) at the inclusion of the Stones song.

As for some of the vitriol the movie is receiving; it may have something to do with "Pilgrim" maybe being a generational movie, as has been written about "Inception". "Pilgrim" has organic appeal to people brought up on Nintendo and the internet. I don't think you have to have intimate knowledge of those things to enjoy the movie, it only enhances the experience if you do.

A really fun movie that kept me off balance and wondering what was going to happen next. Will be happy to see it again.