Scientists have a new theory about what caused the Big Bang

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  1. Romulan_spy

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    "Their suggestion: our known universe could be the three-dimensional “wrapping” around a four-dimensional black hole’s event horizon. In this scenario, our universe burst into being when a star in a four-dimensional universe collapsed into a black hole. In our three-dimensional universe, black holes have two-dimensional event horizons — that is, they are surrounded by a two-dimensional boundary that marks the “point of no return.” In the case of a four-dimensional universe, a black hole would have a three-dimensional event horizon.

    In their proposed scenario, our universe was never inside the singularity; rather, it came into being outside an event horizon, protected from the singularity. It originated as — and remains — just one feature in the imploded wreck of a four-dimensional star."
    https://sciencevibe.com/2020/06/02/...apsing-into-a-black-hole-yes-say-researchers/

    I think these scientists are smoking some really good weed. :lol: :lol:
     
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  2. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Their model supposedly makes falsifiable predictions so I'd wait to see some testing of those.
     
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    Yes, let's see the testing of the predictions. I was just being a bit facetious since it is a pretty trippy theory.

    I do wonder though where the 4 dimensional universe came from. It feels like the "turtle on the back of turtle" problem. You still need to explain where this 4 dimensional universe came from that created our universe. It is just kicking the can down the road where you have to explain the origin of a different universe.
     
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    I opened this thread expecting it to be written by a different poster.
     
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  5. StarCruiser

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    Careful - don't invoke the name of he who is not to be mentioned!

    Indeed, this idea could have a bit of peyote involved...
     
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    I'm not afraid to say his name!

    V - O - L - D - E - M - O -R — wait, does his name end with an 'E' or without? And is the 'T' silent or not?
     
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  7. XCV330

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    So it was Rick and Morty blowing up a fourth dimensional star.
     
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  8. Trinity Gingerbread

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    So I wasn't the only one that thought that.


    I was thinking maybe the events of the film Supernova but actual haha.
     
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    (Phys.org)—The question of why space is three-dimensional (3D) and not some other number of dimensions has puzzled philosophers and scientists since ancient Greece. Space-time overall is four-dimensional, or (3 + 1)-dimensional, where time is the fourth dimension. It's well-known that the time dimension is related to the second law of thermodynamics: time has one direction (forward) because entropy (a measure of disorder) never decreases in a closed system such as the universe.

    The scientists propose that space is 3D because of a thermodynamic quantity called the Helmholtz free energy density. In a universe filled with radiation, this density can be thought of as a kind of pressure on all of space, which depends on the universe's temperature and its number of spatial dimensions.

    https://phys.org/news/2016-05-space-three-dimensional.html

    Thermodynamic Quantity - Energy is the thermodynamic quantity used to describe the energy of heat flows, chemicals, and fuels in a comparable way.

    5th Dimensional Space, such as space before the Big Bang happened, would have been void of Thermodynamic Quantity as we know it. The reason being is that chemicals and fuels that are studied and prove thermodynamic quantity would not have been present prior to the Big Bang.

    However, there would still have been some mechanic involved that created pressure and temperature in the 5th dimension, otherwise all forms of energy would simply have ceased to exist.

    It's well-known that the time dimension is related to the second law of thermodynamics: time has one direction (forward) because entropy (a measure of disorder) never decreases in a closed system such as the universe.

    Entropy -
    1. a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system

    2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.

    In hmolscience, anti-entropy is a loose term associated with effects or processes opposite that of entropy, namely order, organization, and improbability as opposed to that of disorder, disorganization and probability; expressing the ascending primacy of life (powered CHNOPS+ matter)

    Without the Second Law of Thermodynamics existing prior to the Big Bang and space-time on the outside of the Universe not possessing thermodynamics that we currently understand, time would have flowed in all directions, forwards, backwards, sideways and diagonally. Basically time loops back on itself at all moments of every second due to anti-entropy existing in the open system of space-time.

    What does a black hole do? A black hole orders all matter into an infinite time loop inside of the horizon.

    Creating a new Universe requires necessity. Necessity is a form of disorganization in so much that life needs all matter to be disorganized from the time loop in order build upon.

    Basically, inside of the black hole, you would be able to occupy any point inside of the black hole almost instantly as all of time would be looping in an organized manner. Once outside of the black hole however, the loop of time would be going forward only and with so much disorganization of matter going everywhere, the time it would take to cross the diameter of the center of the black hole, far above the black holes center where its gravity was not influencing the path of travel, the distance traveled would take much longer.
     
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  10. 'Q'

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    The 4D was always there and will never die. Time and entropy as we perceive it may not be a physical phenomenon in higher dimensions.
     
  11. publiusr

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    So we are on the verge of falling into a pit

    That’s about right
     
  12. Captain pl1ngpl0ng

    Captain pl1ngpl0ng Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    it's not a new theory...

    and, i dont think we should ridicule all new thoughts as stoner-ideas.
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    Nikodem Poplawski displays a "tornado in a tube".
    The top bottle symbolizes a black hole, the connected necks represent a wormhole
    and the lower bottle symbolizes the growing universe on the just-formed other side of the wormhole.
    Courtesy of Indiana University
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikodem_Popławski
     
  13. Asbo Zaprudder

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    According to some researchers, the Wheeler DeWitt equation demonstrates that time might be an illusion - a product of biology.

    Time Might Only Exist in Your Head. And Everyone Else's
     
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    Yep - but, decay is very real - and that may be what we are actually sensing that leads us to believe time is a real thing...