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Sci-Fi Wire Report On "Enterprise"...

Thanks Dennis

Pleases me to see the Suliban/TCW returning

This arc lasting all season (so it seems)

And a darker Archer is much needed.

I'm still undecided on the T'Pol/Trip thing...but if it creates tension between Archer and Trip, I'm all for it.

Thanks again. :)
 
Posted by Miss Thang:
Posted by emily_reich:
Posted by Dennis Bailey:
•Trip (Connor Trinneer) will grieve for his sister and struggle to balance a need for revenge with his sense of duty to Starfleet. Seeking help from T'Pol, he may find himself more intimately involved with her than ever before.

and THIS just made my day :) in more ways than one :) Trip really IS grieving, and not just a madman, AND Trip/T'Pol for next season!! :D

Hmm, I could live with this T/T thing. Yessss, I do think I could. Let's see. *imagines T'Pol kissing Trip really hard up against a window and him kissing back just right* Yes, I do think so. :eek: Crying Trip with Exploring Her Emotions T'Pol. Yes, I like this.

Just as long as it's not STUPID. I.e.:
Trip: [finally coming to terms with Lizzie's death] I just can't believe she's gone. That I'll never go home to visit my family and hear her laughing and making her jokes about architects and engineers.
T'Pol: Take off your pants.
Trip: What?
T'Pol: Take off your uniform. I want to explore my sexuality right now.
Trip: But I was talking about my loss.
T'Pol: I'm bored. And horny. Talk to Malcolm about it later.
Trip: Man, which emotions are you trying to explore? Seems like all you ever wanna do is screw.
T'Pol: What other emotions are there?
Trip: Lots.
T'Pol: I am a large-chested, emotionally frigid female. Logically the only emotions I need are the ones that make me meow. Take off your pants.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

ok, i wouldn't want ot see this, but that was funny :lol: :lol:
 
SCI-FI Wire Article (posted by Dennis Bailey):
Producers and cast of UPN's Enterprise revealed details to SCI FI Wire about the show's coming sea-change as it enters its third season, including new cast members, evolution of key characters and a dramatic new story arc. The series' new direction was set in motion in last season's finale, when a new alien threat (the Xindi) revealed themselves, and Enterprise set off into the dangerous Delphic Expanse to confront them.

"What you see are guys that have spent the entire hiatus trying to position the show and new scripts and new ideas, and they're rethinking everything," star Scott Bakula (Capt. Archer) said in an interview at UPN's fall press preview. "I'm saying to them every day, 'Think out of the box.' ... And they're saying, 'Let's do this.' And everybody is doing that. They spent all of their energy creating this new place. And now they're peopling it. And we're discovering it."
If only that actually said something ...

I realize that press junkets aren't a reflection of reality, but nothing I see here or elsewhere out of this particular junket sounds like anyone has an ounce of actual information. What they do choose to say, including this snippet from Bakula, still leaves me with the distinct impression of chaos, with no one actually having any idea what they want to do, or need to do. Not very good PR; if they can't come up with something that at least gives the impression that they're focused and determined, why are they even being permitted press access?

Executive producers Brannon Braga and Rick Berman and the cast revealed several key changes in interviews and during a press conference on July 22:
The Enterprise crew will be joined by new characters, members of a Military Assault Command Operations, or MACO. "They're kind of semi-recurring and will be used on certain away missions," Braga said. Those characters have yet to be cast.
Will someone please remove the following words from B&B's public vocabulary:
  • "kind of"
  • "might"
  • "cool"
And please explain that there is no such concept as "semi-recurring" ... :rolleyes:
Archer will get a little darker, a bit more driven in his mission to stop the Xindi. "The idea of being the peaceful 'We-come-in-friendship' [guy], ... that guy is gone," Bakula said.
How long ago was Trek supposed to show positive characters, even amidst negative situations, and to do otherwise was anathema, even for the executives to consider? After two years of a show where they can't even approach the concept of a crewperson dying, now it sounds like we're using The Shield as our model ...

T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) will no longer be under the control of the Vulcan High Command and will begin to explore emotions and humanity. She'll also get a new look: new hair, new costumes. "We've got color, and that's always exciting," Blalock said.
Bad idea. Bad, bad idea. It was a bad idea with 7 of 9, and they haven't apparently learned anything. The chief value of a character such as T'Pol is that she isn't human, and can thus provide an external view into humanity. Make her just another pilgrim on the path to humanity, just as Data and Seven and the Doctor, and you might as well peel off the ears and call her "Jill." But, hey, at least we've got exciting colors ...
Trip (Connor Trinneer) will grieve for his sister and struggle to balance a need for revenge with his sense of duty to Starfleet. Seeking help from T'Pol, he may find himself more intimately involved with her than ever before.
... well, as long as she's not going to be a Vulcan anyway, this is about as exciting to me as oatmeal. I don't share Dennis's unfounded assurance that the folks who've never been able to create a decent relationship between any two people, of the same or different species, may find a magic path this time. I expect we could see just as good a job with a relationship between Phlox and Porthos, except for the fact Billingsley is the only actor in the cast who could probably pull it off.
The Temporal Cold War and the Suliban storyline will become an integral part of the Xindi arc later in the season, Berman said.
"... because we decided from the very beginning that this show will be based upon the TCW, and dammit we're going to force every square peg into a round hole. If those fanfic writers can make Buffy fit with The Prisoner, we can do this, because at least we're getting paid more."

:rolleyes:
 
Posted by its_a_clock:

:insert vomit smiley:

ya mean this one:

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Posted by Ptrope:

I realize that press junkets aren't a reflection of reality, but nothing I see here or elsewhere out of this particular junket sounds like anyone has an ounce of actual information. What they do choose to say, including this snippet from Bakula, still leaves me with the distinct impression of chaos, with no one actually having any idea what they want to do, or need to do. Not very good PR; if they can't come up with something that at least gives the impression that they're focused and determined, why are they even being permitted press access?
T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) will no longer be under the control of the Vulcan High Command and will begin to explore emotions and humanity. She'll also get a new look: new hair, new costumes. "We've got color, and that's always exciting," Blalock said.
Bad idea. Bad, bad idea. It was a bad idea with 7 of 9, and they haven't apparently learned anything. The chief value of a character such as T'Pol is that she isn't human, and can thus provide an external view into humanity. Make her just another pilgrim on the path to humanity, just as Data and Seven and the Doctor, and you might as well peel off the ears and call her "Jill." But, hey, at least we've got exciting colors ....

I hear ya.. you said it. :)
 
Let's look at this whole Trip/T'Pol thing.

In season 1, they had some dynamite scenes together, and even the actors have aknowledged that sparks fly when the 2 are onscreen. But for some reason, in season 2 the writers backed off, and the potential for something, even friendship between the 2 characters, was mostly ignored. In fact, they hardly had any screen time together.

Instead, what did we get? Archer/T'Pol, or at least hints at it. Totally forced, but unmistakable, imo.

But at the same time we heard the actors saying that they were not in favor of any shipboard romances for their characters, and even Braga said in his chat that they had no romances planned. In his interview in SciFi magazine, Bakula said that the Archer/T'Pol stuff was mostly in the fans' minds, and that nothing is going to happen. (I'm paraphrasing).

Now someone is hinting at a Trip/T'pol romance? I don't believe it. Either this is some reporter's misinterpretation of something the BBs said, or it's just the BBs throwing something out for effect and the desire to titillate. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Posted by bandybones:

Now someone is hinting at a Trip/T'pol romance? I don't believe it. Either this is some reporter's misinterpretation of something the BBs said, or it's just the BBs throwing something out for effect and the desire to titillate. I'll believe it when I see it.

ok, i can see your point, and it IS possible that it was a misinterpretation, but at the very LEAST, this probably means more screen time for them, and (even if it was a misinterpretation) hopefully there will at least be friendship again.... i mean, like you said, they've had about three scenes together all of last season (ok, so mabe a few more, but ya know...very few :))

and i'm STILL excited about the trip part.... struggling, is he?? this means he's not just a revenge-seeking madman, and that is good news :)
 
Posted by guyute03:
I'm still undecided on the T'Pol/Trip thing...but if it creates tension between Archer and Trip, I'm all for it.

Ooooh, even better. :eek: Just not STUPID (see above example :D ).

I just hope that if they do give us a darker Archer that they don't do so by recasting and going with George Hamilton. A captain should not carry a Long Island Iced Tea with him onto the bridge.
 
emily_reich wrote
and i'm STILL excited about the trip part.... struggling, is he?? this means he's not just a revenge-seeking madman, and that is good news

I agree with you, emily. Being the confirmed Tuckerite that I am, I welcome any screentime for the wonderful Connor, and this certainly does indicate that he will have some quiet, more reflective scenes. Not just the revenge stuff. I'm really looking forward to season 3.
 
I think having T'Pol changed by her interaction with humans and particularly the relationship with Trip is a great idea. It's far more interesting and individuated than being the "alien who looks at humanity from outside".

Spock, the archetypical Vulcan character, would have been no more than a nuisance if that had been his main dramatic axis. What made him more than a mouthpiece for the heavy-handed "observations" of some tv writers in L.A. were his -- sorry, Vulcanphiles -- emotional conflicts.

To some extent, T'Pol is Spock in reverse. He resists the "weakness" of his human heritage; she rebels against the suffocation of her Vulcan indoctrination.
 
^Bandybones, do you have to knock, albeit gently, A/T'P fans down when we're already down? :) It didn't seem forced to us.

Maybe I'm reading into it -- but at least it will mean Trip's gonna spend more with T'Pol than last year. You're right, it is still early to predict what will really happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if we see some sexy stuff happening between Trip and T'Pol -- hell with continuity.
 
^^ janek , I did use the disclaimer "imo" when talking about the A/T'P relationship. I certainly didn't mean to offend.

For the record, I'm not in favor of any shipboard romances, including T/T'P. Better that they develop a great friendship. And that's not meant to diss T/T'Polers either.
 
This is actually more positive, I think.

From what Dennis posted, the following are of particular interest...

•The Enterprise crew will be joined by new characters, members of a Military Assault Command Operations, or MACO. "They're kind of semi-recurring and will be used on certain away missions," Braga said. Those characters have yet to be cast.

That has to be outdated, though, doesn't it? At least a few are now cast, or am I mis-remembering?

•Archer will get a little darker, a bit more driven in his mission to stop the Xindi. "The idea of being the peaceful 'We-come-in-friendship' [guy], ... that guy is gone," Bakula said.

If written well, that could be a good step. I'd not want Archer to lose all his optimism and openness, but he needs a sense of purpose, and this may help give him one.

•Trip (Connor Trinneer) will grieve for his sister and struggle to balance a need for revenge with his sense of duty to Starfleet. Seeking help from T'Pol, he may find himself more intimately involved with her than ever before.

Okay, now this is intriguing, and it's so because it continues to explore the Human/Vulcan dynamic. T'Pol explores emotion and Trip explores the Vulcan idea of what Diane Duane called cthia ("passion's mastery", mis-translated as "logic"). And if they do it that way, instead of just "T'Pol learns how to be more Human", it could be rather neat.

•The Temporal Cold War and the Suliban storyline will become an integral part of the Xindi arc later in the season, Berman said.

As much as I'd still rather they make the TCW just go away, at least this answers the question of whether they're abandoning older storylines, and that answer is "no".

Intriguing stuff, at least...

Best,
Alex
 
Posted by bandybones:

For the record, I'm not in favor of any shipboard romances, including T/T'P. Better that they develop a great friendship. And that's not meant to diss T/T'Polers either.

i must admit that, as much as i am a T/Ter, i certainly would prefer NO 'ship to a badly-done 'ship... if T/T turns out as immature as a night in sickbay, i will CERTAINLY be dissapointed....
 
Sorry, Janek. :( However, you have cause to rejoice. This angry Archer business sounds as if it will play to Scott's strengths. Angry, worried, tired, angsty, in need of comfort and support Archer.....think about it. It could be goooooooood. :evil: No more boy scout Archer.

As far as the Trip/T'Pol stuff goes, gosh I have fallen off the Trip/T'Pol train. I'd have been jumping for joy once upon a time. I just hope that this isn't A Night in Sickbay redux drivel with Trip substituting for the captain. I've seen B&B's idea of sexy. It isn't. If there going to quash my Trip/Hoshi dreams and do this (I'm hoping this isn't more trophy passing teasing bits of nothing) then go for it and do it right or don't go there at all. I'm serious. This program is in dire need of some pulsating sexuality. Not decon. Not boobs in the face.

EDIT:
Okay, now this is intriguing, and it's so because it continues to explore the Human/Vulcan dynamic. T'Pol explores emotion and Trip explores the Vulcan idea of what Diane Duane called cthia ("passion's mastery", mis-translated as "logic"). And if they do it that way, instead of just "T'Pol learns how to be more Human", it could be rather neat.

Yes. Exactly. Trip and T'Pol approached from that angle could be sensual and heartfelt but are B&B capable of authoring a scenario such as the above? Like I said, they seemed to believe that ANIS was sexy when it was anything but. This may all turn out to be cheap titillation with T'Pol aimed towards Trip this time on the trophy round up.
 
We'll see...I don't trust anyhting B&B say. They alway promise things and never deliver...that's why people don't like ENT.


JF
 
Posted by Dennis Bailey:
Spock, the archetypical Vulcan character, would have been no more than a nuisance if that had been his main dramatic axis. What made him more than a mouthpiece for the heavy-handed "observations" of some tv writers in L.A. were his -- sorry, Vulcanphiles -- emotional conflicts.

To some extent, T'Pol is Spock in reverse. He resists the "weakness" of his human heritage; she rebels against the suffocation of her Vulcan indoctrination.

:confused: :eek: :)

Well if you put it that way. Now if they can execute it like that.
 
Posted by slappy:
So confused. On the one hand, Bakula paints a semi-positive picture of the B regime. Then the B Twins go say something stupid. Who to believe?

It occurs to me that what B&B need is a press secretary. ;)

What they certainly need is to learn to give better interviews.

Best,
Alex
 
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