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I feel the same about Mutant X...as you already know.
I feel the same about Mutant X...as you already know.
Sci-fi movies/shows that should be remade
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Most of my choices have already been remade:
Battlestar Galactica (loved the remake)
Star Trek (I refuse to watch JJ Trek)
Godzilla (Only person in the cosmos who loved the remake)
The Day The Earth Stood Still (ambivalent about the remake)
Transformers (worship the remake)
The list actually goes on, so I figure I don't really need a wish list. At this rate, everything I've ever wanted to see remade will get there eventually.
Battlestar Galactica (loved the remake)
Star Trek (I refuse to watch JJ Trek)
Godzilla (Only person in the cosmos who loved the remake)
The Day The Earth Stood Still (ambivalent about the remake)
Transformers (worship the remake)
The list actually goes on, so I figure I don't really need a wish list. At this rate, everything I've ever wanted to see remade will get there eventually.
That would be pretty good if handled properly.
It was based on a book that was different than the film (no Soylent Green is people).
MAKE ROOM, MAKE ROOM by Harry Harrison.
If nothing else, a new movie would give someone an excuse to reprint the original novel . . . with a movie tie-in cover, of course!
The Last Starfighter.
The first ever CGI film.
I'm pretty sure the accepted distinction goes to Tron, which came out 2 years before The Last Starfighter. With Tron, they had to develop whole new methods of making a movie, much in the same way Avatar has done for 3D.
Yep...MAKE ROOM, MAKE ROOM. Ordered that last year on Amazon although I haven't had a chance to read it.
I wish the Logan's Run novels would end up back in print.
Forgot to add "Space: Above and Beyond" although I'm sure some would attempt to compare it to Ron Moore's "Battlestar Galactica". I loved that show when it was on and hated that it was canceled before it could resolve it's season ending cliffhanger.
My Living Doll, with Julie Newmar and Robert Cummings should be remade. The lead should be freakishly tall but standard Hollywood sexy. The beauty of the premise is that she doesn't absolutely have to be a good actress. The key is casting the Robert Cummings part. William Ragsdale (last seen I think on Herman's Head, is he still alive?) seems good. But Dream Casting would send over Robert Downey Jr. Even if Ragsdale would have the proper whiff of loserdom.
But if we could afford Dream Casting, why not Third Rock From the Sun? Paul Reubens as Harry, Michelle Rodriguez as Sally, Steve Carell as Dick, maybe Elisabeth Shue as Mary Albright. Tommy is a tough one, young actors are a crap shoot.
But if we could afford Dream Casting, why not Third Rock From the Sun? Paul Reubens as Harry, Michelle Rodriguez as Sally, Steve Carell as Dick, maybe Elisabeth Shue as Mary Albright. Tommy is a tough one, young actors are a crap shoot.
I didn't say anything about making it more mundane. I am also not talking about getting rid of interference from aliens. What I was talking about was having the moon blown out of orbit by exploding nuclear waste. I loved the show but even as a kid that accident didn't seem very believable.
Nardpuncher
Rear Admiral
I believe Dune is being done again as a movie soon.
I think the look of the 1984 Lynch movie is fantastic. Just don't have the inner monologues. The whole movie as exposition. If they want the new one to be better they need to trim it and keep it exciting.
I think the look of the 1984 Lynch movie is fantastic. Just don't have the inner monologues. The whole movie as exposition. If they want the new one to be better they need to trim it and keep it exciting.
A remake would have to fix some MAJOR story holes in the original. Why were the last forests blasted into space, when it would have been so much cheaper and easier to preserve them in greenhouses on Earth? If the domes were self-contained ecologies that didn't need constant maintenance, why did they have to stay attached to the ships? Why was it necessary to destroy them? WTF were the ships doing way out near Saturn, anyway? And Bruce Dern, Mr. Bigshot Forestry Expert -- why does it take him so long to figure out that the reason the forest is dying is because they're TOO FAR FROM THE GODDAMN SUN??!!
Oh, and please, none of that godawful Joan Baez music.
Less boring this time, though.
It still feels weird knowing that SR was Hodgson's inspiration for the premise of MST3K.
I'm probably in the minority on this.
Then again, the Solaris remake was awesome, so I'm not at all opposed to an SR remake.
Greg Cox said:
I dunno, man. In part because its associated movement was so successful, Soylent Green and Make Room! Make Room! feature one of the most irrelevant, even potentially damaging science-fiction premises I can think of. The American public, and the worldwide public, do not need to have it reinforced that there is still an overpopulation problem.
Not that the underlying problem is totally solved (carriage capacity versus bourgeois aspirations), but people were made aware of it, made so aware of it that they don't realize that growth rates are collapsing globally, and in some cases have collapsed completely, with population retreat. Overpopulation became their paradigm, even though underpopulation is a threat in some places (Russia, Japan, Europe, but not to the same degree in America--yet) and true demographic catastrophe is a threat in others (China).
Soylent Green would have to be radically reimagined to be worthwhile. Maybe if it took place in a 2040s Hong Kong police state--and they only ate men.
Now Logan's Run? That is just as relevant as it was, perhaps even more relevant than it was, with its ageist theme.
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I'd actually seriously love to see remakes of the Prequel Trilogy in the next twenty years--that is, helmed by talented people. Indeed, it's only ego and personal control that's gonna ever keep this from being done--I can guarantee that a PT remake would make metric assloads of cash, and I suspect a lot of people, both fans and pros, harbor a secret desire to see it done.
I've never seen Michel Houellebecq's Possibility of an Island adaptation, but word is it sucks ultimate balls. I would like to see an American, high-budget version of this. Directed by Duncan Jones. Scored by Clint Mansell. Starring maybe Louis C.K.
So the problem isn't really one of overpopulation or underpopulation -- it's simply a matter of distribution. Just take all the surplus Chinese and Indians and put them in the middle of Australia, which is damn near empty!
Nardpuncher
Rear Admiral
I would love to see that happen...at least if not in movies, in book form. I don't know which author I'd choose to do it, but a reimagining of how Darth Vader came to be would be great.
There won't be surplus Chinese in about thirty or forty years, is my point. "Demographic catastrophe" is something else, the result of a viciously oversuccessful anti-population policy, that has skewed sex ratios to terrifying levels and has only recently begun to be addressed by the inept PRC government, who should have seen this coming given their ridiculously gender-backward culture.*
Or maybe you were making a joke and I interpreted it as missing my point. If so, sorry.
Now, on reflection, overpopulation is still a major possibility once we develop radical life extension technologies. You could do a movie about that, but it's not a remake of Soylent Green. It would be a remake of Zardoz.
*Edit: I don't want anybody to take this personally, or even that I have anything particularly against Chinese culture as a whole. But systemic misogyny has led to an ongoing atrocity against women and men in the PRC, that won't be settled for several generations.
Nardpuncher said:
Well, if all you want's written word, I'm positive that there are probably three or four hundred to choose from on the Internets. And in a shocking reversal, despite being written by obsessed, grody fanfic writers, I'd imagine most of them are still better than the professionally-done actual PT. Heck, I even plotted and dialogued a few scenes once. I think we all did.
But I can get on board with a pro writer redoing it. If Greg Cox (to throw out a name here) said "Hey guys, George Lucas finally kicked it and his heirs hired me to rewrite the dreadful PT" I'd probably buy it, if for nothing else than the posthumous admission of guilt.
Interestingly, though, I think in the next twenty or thirty years we're going to see the costs of CGI, and the humanhours and skill involved, come crashing down so far, and the verisimilitude of it become so true, that fan remakes of 1990s technical quality might just be possible.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry that one of the first things I'd do with an AI loaded with the appropriate rendering software is to remake bloody Star Wars. The downfall of franchises, popular culture reduced to millions of fan-creators vivisecting their favorite old stories with effectively professional polish, rebuilding cultural icons into idiosyncratic vanity pieces, studded with pornography, made just right for their narrowband tastes, and delivered to faintly interested audiences of tens of close friends, sometimes whole scores! It might be cool.
Thanks for the line of thought, it's probably something I can use.
Edit 2: no, I am not blind to the irony inherent in describing the Prequel Trilogy and the gendercide in the PRC with equal vehemence.
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Personally, I'd love to see a new adaptation of "2010". I do enjoy the movie but I think it's pulled down by a number of issues.
For one, unlike "2001" I think it doesn't manage to look futuristic due to a number of design choices (including stuff like using CRTs instead of rear projection, IIRC) or feel futuristic thanks to the Cold War angle (that's not to say "2001" doesn't feel like it's from the 60's in many places but I find there's nothing that so heavy-handedly dates it).
I also need to note that I find the 'running' gag in the film where the Russians keep screwing up English sayings to be really annoying. The way it's portrayed, it feels like their American counterparts are getting more and more fed up with the fact that the Russians are getting it wrong. And the only thing I can keep thinking is, duh, well, these guys speak fluent English - how much Russian do you speak, then? ^^
In addition, there's a number of elements from the book I would love to in a movie version. One is the entire China-related part of the story. The other is the ability to get into some of the alien encounter described in the book that could be visualized with today's technology (this is one thing I don't blame "2010" the movie for omitting - it was probably a smart move at the time).
So, yeah, I'd love to see a remake or, better, a new adaptation of the novel "2010".
For one, unlike "2001" I think it doesn't manage to look futuristic due to a number of design choices (including stuff like using CRTs instead of rear projection, IIRC) or feel futuristic thanks to the Cold War angle (that's not to say "2001" doesn't feel like it's from the 60's in many places but I find there's nothing that so heavy-handedly dates it).
I also need to note that I find the 'running' gag in the film where the Russians keep screwing up English sayings to be really annoying. The way it's portrayed, it feels like their American counterparts are getting more and more fed up with the fact that the Russians are getting it wrong. And the only thing I can keep thinking is, duh, well, these guys speak fluent English - how much Russian do you speak, then? ^^
In addition, there's a number of elements from the book I would love to in a movie version. One is the entire China-related part of the story. The other is the ability to get into some of the alien encounter described in the book that could be visualized with today's technology (this is one thing I don't blame "2010" the movie for omitting - it was probably a smart move at the time).
So, yeah, I'd love to see a remake or, better, a new adaptation of the novel "2010".
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