Welp, rage and shake your fists at the sky as much as you like guys. Its all part of official DW lore now. 
Sarah Jane Adventures: Series 4
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Welp, rage and shake your fists at the sky as much as you like guys. Its all part of official DW lore now.
It's a part of DW spinoff lore, you mean...
Anyway, DW lore has always contradicted itself, especially officially! And the Doctor can just as easily be telling Jo what she wants to hear cos he realises she could use a little ego-boost.
Welp, rage and shake your fists at the sky as much as you like guys. Its all part of official DW lore now.
It's a part of DW spinoff lore, you mean...
Anyway, DW lore has always contradicted itself, especially officially! And the Doctor can just as easily be telling Jo what she wants to hear cos he realises she could use a little ego-boost.
Which still doesn't explain how he knew exactly what she'd done...unless it was on her Facebook page of course
He didn't just track them down, he tracked many of them down at specific points where they were in danger (Luke, Martha and Mickey) which must have complicated the process. It seemed a trifle silly when he did it with just a handful, to imagine himdoing it to litereally dozens of people stretches credulity. (especially factoring in the fact that he visited two relatives of someone he knew into the bargain!)
Like I've said before though, if he'd said to Wilf something along the lines of... "It's started. No way back now but I can probably hold it off for a while, a few days, a week maybe. Long enough..." I'd have accepted it. It would have still been silly, but not as silly.
And I say this as someone who quite liked some aspects of Ten's farewell tour
It's just another thing RTD has written to make his doctor the most godly and powerful of any previous doctor
What do you mean? RTD never wrote for Six.
Exactly. Unless it happens on Doctor Who, it's peripheral. I will ignore it just as I will ignore how silly everything seems in the Whoverse when viewed through the SJA lens.
It's just another thing RTD has written to make his doctor the most godly and powerful of any previous doctor
Again, exactly. His Queen Ego destroyed any worthy creative offerings he may have had years ago. That's what happens when you have a mindless fanbase that worships your every move. He's just trying to milk one last ounce of Tennant-Squee from the fangirls because that's all he's got left. How insulting towards Matt Smith, really. There was no reason to bring anything up about Tennant's final story. But, no, instead of showing us the current Doctor, and how awesome he is, RTD decided to shove his fanfic in there while basically saying, "Yeah, sorry the new guy is here....but remember DAVID?! He was MY Doctor! I chose him! Me!"
Oh and Sci? The moment you relied on a very cheesy and obnoxious smiley to try and explain your point, I simply tuned-out. I'm sure you love interpreting what anyone and everyone says as an attack on your life, friends, family, sexual beliefs, etc., etc. And I'm sure I'm the bogeyman for not falling on the ground and weeping over how "evil" I am for repressing your nieces and nephews needs to see and learn about sexuality from a children's program. So, enjoy your pre-determined victimization. Meanwhile, my point is still as solid as the moment I made it. Thanks.
And btw, this made me laugh the hardest:
There was no reason to bring anything up about Tennant's final story. But, no, instead of showing us the current Doctor, and how awesome he is, RTD decided to shove his fanfic in there while basically saying, "Yeah, sorry the new guy is here....but remember DAVID?! He was MY Doctor! I chose him! Me!"
This is a fair point I suppose, but if it hadn't have been handled in such a heavy, in-your-face way I don't think there'd be a problem with a Doctor talking about events from a previous Doctor's life.
They're the same man after all. Shame it was so bloody over-the-top, as is usual with Mr Davies. Ah well.
And btw, this made me laugh the hardest:
I think you'll find what Sci says is absolutely true. Unless you're suggesting that every reference to homosexuality is a sexual reference inappropriate for kids?
No, I think I find that it's fucking hilarious that every single mention of the word "sexuality" sends him off even further into a reaction about homosexuality. Please note, I didn't mention homosexuality in my post. I stated "sexuality", as in, all of it. Hetero, Homo, etc. Sci immediately chose to make it about homosexuality at that moment. I'm just watching the reaction, trying to see what happens next when he suddenly sees some fictional button being pushed. Rational people can discuss issues without a knee-jerk mentality, and talking points they picked up from SOC 101...
And let me be very clear: I don't care if you're gay, straight, dumb, smart, whatever.....if it's a children's show, leave out the sexual references and sexuality of characters. It's not media's place to expose a child to such things.
There was no reason to bring anything up about Tennant's final story. But, no, instead of showing us the current Doctor, and how awesome he is, RTD decided to shove his fanfic in there while basically saying, "Yeah, sorry the new guy is here....but remember DAVID?! He was MY Doctor! I chose him! Me!"
This is a fair point I suppose, but if it hadn't have been handled in such a heavy, in-your-face way I don't think there'd be a problem with a Doctor talking about events from a previous Doctor's life.
They're the same man after all. Shame it was so bloody over-the-top, as is usual with Mr Davies. Ah well.
^It's the timing that got me. The corpse is barely cold and the new guy barely broke in. Why open fresh wounds other than for a quick, cheap emotional tug? Just my opinion.
It's just another thing RTD has written to make his doctor the most godly and powerful of any previous doctor
Again, exactly. His Queen Ego destroyed any worthy creative offerings he may have had years ago. That's what happens when you have a mindless fanbase that worships your every move. He's just trying to milk one last ounce of Tennant-Squee from the fangirls because that's all he's got left. How insulting towards Matt Smith, really. There was no reason to bring anything up about Tennant's final story. But, no, instead of showing us the current Doctor, and how awesome he is, RTD decided to shove his fanfic in there while basically saying, "Yeah, sorry the new guy is here....but remember DAVID?! He was MY Doctor! I chose him! Me!"
Exactly. It was unfair for Smith's Doctor. I did think the line "The Mona Lisa?!" was suited more for Tennant's doctor to say too.
Sarah Jane: Did it hurt? I mean regeneration. That last body of yours, was he okay in the end?
I almost wanted Eleven to say "OH! Enough about my former self! I'm here!
Looks into camera
Smith- You hear that girls?! I'm here HA!
Well when he said he went back to visit everyone, my first thought was about Susan Foreman.
And btw, this made me laugh the hardest:
I think you'll find what Sci says is absolutely true. Unless you're suggesting that every reference to homosexuality is a sexual reference inappropriate for kids?
No, I think I find that it's fucking hilarious that every single mention of the word "sexuality" sends him off even further into a reaction about homosexuality. Please note, I didn't mention homosexuality in my post. I stated "sexuality", as in, all of it. Hetero, Homo, etc. Sci immediately chose to make it about homosexuality at that moment. I'm just watching the reaction, trying to see what happens next when he suddenly sees some fictional button being pushed. Rational people can discuss issues without a knee-jerk mentality, and talking points they picked up from SOC 101...
And let me be very clear: I don't care if you're gay, straight, dumb, smart, whatever.....if it's a children's show, leave out the sexual references and sexuality of characters. It's not media's place to expose a child to such things.
So you don't think that the gay dads reference is inappropriate for the SJA?
The impression I got is that you did, apologies if that is not the case.
It was so quick, I can't honestly say it bothers me it's there. In fact, you have to really listen to hear it. But, I also think it's not a good idea to have anything like this in a children's program, no. No one says anything about the "Straight Dad's Club" or anything. That would be silly and very, very obvious with intent. When someone writes something with intent, it is usually to influence or promote their personal agenda or message. Same business here. There's no demographic for inserting sexual references into an eight-year-old's show.
Don't you remember what it was like to be 8?
Every thing I did was about sneaking into the adults porn collections in any new house I visited.
Every thing I did was about sneaking into the adults porn collections in any new house I visited.
Except it isn't actually a sexual reference. Clearly you have your own issues if you think it is.
Plus in the context of British TV it's barely even a reference. Hollyoaks is on only an hour later with a big childrens audience and has gay storylines pretty much non stop and is more explicit in terms of all sexuality than nearly any other programme broadcast before 9pm in this country.
Plus Grange Hill and Byker Grove used to address these issues and far stronger ones, and they were shown after Newsround and before Neighbours - so between 17:10 and 17:25.
Good point - I'd forgotten Byker Grove despite watching it every week when I was younger!
There's also As If which used to be shown Sunday morning/early afternoon - as is the Hollyoaks omnibus come to think of it.
