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Spoilers S31: Disavowed by David Mack Review Thread

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I interpreted Memory Omega's role as a mirror-image of Section 31: tasked in the past with preserving and protecting a civilization, and completing that task based on its own perceptions and ideals, albeit in a more altruistic and morally honest fashion than the Section.
Yeah, does Section 31 even make an effort to follow Federation values?

Didn't mention values.

I think they were agreeing with you, not criticizing your perspective.
 
Question for Mr. Mack. Do you have any sketches or perhaps inspirational pictures for what exactly the Commonwealth jaunt ships look like? When they were first introduced in Rise Like Lions, I pictured something like a modified Sovereign class. Now, from Disavowed, with a "ring-shaped secondary hull and its sleek warp nacelles", I'm almost picturing a cross between an early Vulcan "ring warp" ship (from Enterprise) and the NSEA Protector from Galaxy Quest.


What do you "see" when reading/writing about it? :vulcan:
 
Anyone notice that the Enterprise's flight controller Tolaris (a female Vulcan) has a name identical to the V'tosh ka'tur Tolaris (a male Vulcan) from ENT: "Fusion"?
 
Finished this today and really enjoyed it! I'm curious about the character David Webb. Was his inclusion meant as a nod to the Jason Bourne films?

As for other things I liked from the book:

  • the temporal causality loop created by the Breen's ill-fated use of the jaunt drive
  • the tie-ins with A Ceremony of Losses and Sorrows of Empire
  • the possibility of the two universes working together in the future
  • the more benevolent Dominion; I liked the point made by the Founder about the two Odo's switching places--we've seen stranger things in Trek, and it wouldn't surprise me if we found out this was true
--Sran
 
  • the more benevolent Dominion; I liked the point made by the Founder about the two Odo's switching places--we've seen stranger things in Trek, and it wouldn't surprise me if we found out this was true
--Sran

I don't think that was meant to be a serious suggestion so much as a joke; like two parents kidding about how they must have accidentally taken each others' kids because they're so different from themselves. Plus folks in this thread already pointed out why it couldn't literally be true.
 
I've just hit the 2/3 mark. And I'm enjoying it far more than I'd imagined possible, given how much I normally dislike (1) Section 31 stories, (2) Dominion stories, and (3) Mirror Universe stories.

Now that I've finished it, I agree with everything "Sran" has said, and (to my great surprise) gave the book an "Above Average" rating.

And as to the possibility of Odo and Mirror-Odo being swapped, well, perhaps the Prophets could have done so without any telltale change of quantum signature. (As to why they would do so, well, why do they do anything?)
 
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Anyone notice that the Enterprise's flight controller Tolaris (a female Vulcan) has a name identical to the V'tosh ka'tur Tolaris (a male Vulcan) from ENT: "Fusion"?

Mack likes to sneak in some aversions to the "One Steve Only" rule. :) Witness the two Tellarites named Teg (one a criminal, one a Starfleet officer). Evidently the name Tolaris isn't a gendered one, or else is gendered differently across Vulcan subcultures, or else one of the parents was a bit unconventional.

As an aside - The fansite kirshara, which breaks down Vulcan names (and does a pretty magnificent job with them, in my opinion) speculates that Tolaris derives from T'olara-es, "of the honourable blue" (part of the site's assumption/speculation that blue - lara - is a noble colour).
 
Regarding Section 31: Control, are we likely to see it published in 2015?

No. I'm not scheduled to turn in the manuscript until September 1, 2015, so the earliest it's likely to be published is April or May 2016.


Well I'll be buying it whenever it's released, but I have to say it's release schedules like this that make me really miss that brief moment in time when we were getting 2 books a month.

Still, a heck of a fun ride.
 
It is interesting that there has not been a lot of discussion of Bashir in this thread. What I liked most about the book is to see him humbled as well as realizing, finally, that this is not a "spy game", there is no game at all. This is deadly serious. Seeing him be a complete pawn in this story and realizing just how much in the end was really satisfying. Bashir needed that humiliation. Just because he is genetically enhanced does not mean that he is always a few steps ahead of everyone. Now that his arrogance has been tempered I think he will have a much better shot of having a damaging impact on 31.

Mack really brings the action and has set up a great story; he brought down the Borg, hopefully this will bring down Section 31.
 
Finished this today and really enjoyed it! I'm curious about the character David Webb. Was his inclusion meant as a nod to the Jason Bourne films?
Not only that but so was Ken Kitsom, which was Aaron Cross' real name in The Bourne Legacy.
 
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