Not going to even take that, just technology that makes the Federation fatter and happier and ups their moral smugness over everyone else.
The bigger you are, the harder you fall...
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Not going to even take that, just technology that makes the Federation fatter and happier and ups their moral smugness over everyone else.
The bigger you are, the harder you fall...
I liked it better when Terry Nation turned it into Blakes Seven.
And as theorized in Niven's A Word Out Of Time, all it might take is one barbarian at the gate to make it collapse.
None of the fallen civilizations we have been shown had replicators or time travel.
Hell, it's questionable whether the T'kon and Iconions even had starships.
So they could move stars and move among the galaxy without ships, yet somehow didn't have replicators or time travel? Okay...
I like the idea of Discovery trying to find their place in a galaxy that is vastly different from the one they left. Whether that involves a fall of the Federation story, a Federation evolved beyond recognition, or a future where sentient cotton candy has laid claim to an Alpha Quadrant long abandoned by the now noncorporial humanity, time will only tell. Whatever they do in season 3, I just hope it is fun and surprising.
Except the T'kon rather obviously couldn't do that given the Empire was destroyed when their sun went supernova.
A strong Captain character, even if it is Saru - and if it is, that they have a great focus on his new motivations. They're 3 for 3 in great Captains, IMO.
I'd like to see more good battles, but let's have a more focus on quality of quantity. S2's finale was arguably the most spectacular in all of Trek, but when you look even a bit closer, it really falls apart in my view.
And on behalf of my wife's primary complaint, a request for Michael to TONE IT DOWN next season. SMG is great, and in the first season she was pretty badass. But this year there's an AWFUL lot of emotionality, crying, and in my wife's view, overacting for the sake of it. Training to repress emotions or not, Michael should be a bit more in control than she was this year.
Mark
I'd like to see more good battles, but let's have a more focus on quality of quantity. S2's finale was arguably the most spectacular in all of Trek, but when you look even a bit closer, it really falls apart in my view.
And on behalf of my wife's primary complaint, a request for Michael to TONE IT DOWN next season. SMG is great, and in the first season she was pretty badass. But this year there's an AWFUL lot of emotionality, crying, and in my wife's view, overacting for the sake of it. Training to repress emotions or not, Michael should be a bit more in control than she was this year.
Mark
One interesting idea which hasn't been considered yet - what if the Federation "transcended" a few generations prior to Discovery's arrival? We know that the ultimate fate of most races which survive for long periods of time in Trek seems to be becoming godlike energy beings. What if something of this sort happened to the Federation, and Discovery arrives to find a largely empty quadrant with only mysterious bits of hi-tech crap left over they can't begin to fathom?
Hey who knows? Maybe they'll get it right this time.
Adds A World Out of Time to reading list.
Highly recommended. Niven has written several great novels, this among them
Star Trek: Left Behind
I know we don't know anything about Season 3 yet.... but if I were to make an educated guess: I'd say "Calypso", "New Eden", "The Red Angel", "Perpetual Infinity", and "Through the Valley of Shadows" would be the best place to look for clues.
- "New Eden" because of Terralysium.
- "Perpetual Infinity" because of Gabriel Burnham.
- "The Red Angel" because of Michael Burnham's pre-Vulcan childhood, and flashbacks with her birth parents.
- "Through the Valley of Shadows" because of Time Crystals. Tenavik appeared suddenly as an adult, so he did his growing up in another time, so I think he's a time-neutral, time-free character who can show up at any point. It might also be a way to get Georgiou into the Section 31 Series if it's set in the 23rd Century.
- "Calypso" as a guide for where things might be going. It's a mystery to uncover and discover more about.
If they want any more flashbacks to when Burnham was a child, and they don't want to recast, they better get them in the third season. I think the actor is at an age where pretty soon even one year is going to make a huge difference. That's the way it is from 11 to 14.
I'm not sure if I want an Andromeda or Blake's 7 future. Or something entirely different.
The DS9 Millenium trilogy dealt with a bizarro crapsack future where Starfleet had split in two factions. I kinda liked that. Or the novel Crossroad, where the Federation had gone full-on darkside in the 26th century following a plague, and were breeding a mentally retarded worker class.
The DS9 Millenium trilogy dealt with a bizarro crapsack future where Starfleet had split in two factions. I kinda liked that. Or the novel Crossroad, where the Federation had gone full-on darkside in the 26th century following a plague, and were breeding a mentally retarded worker class.
Holy shit.
Blake's 7 would work - Avon would be fighting Georgiou for her leather suit, and she'd kick the living shit out of him...
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