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Spoilers Russell T. Davies Returns to Doctor Who as New Showrunner

Call me crazy, but instead of going to frankly some old men, maybe we need someone we’ve never heard of who can do the job, who is roughly in their forties and do have some fondness for the show.
The only reason a ‘fan’ has become necessary is because of the amount of time spent fiddling with lore or looking backwards. They can have a separate consultant for when they really *need* to do that.

If you’re just doing new stuff, moving forwards, all you really need is the basic descriptions that fit on the back of a card for recurring elements — and the good sense not to mess with things. If you’re doing an anniversary year, or you’re intent on introducing some new element, you just need some archive dude or dudette who knows their Who (and stick to TV Who, with a passing knowledge of the other stuff) to give scripts a once over. (Lucasfilm used to have that exact job. I wanted to apply for it back in.. about 2004. I doubt my Star Wars and Indy was up to snuff though.)
A simple ‘do not contradict or rewrite’ edict is all you need to keep fans mostly happy, and allow you the freedom to just make Who.

It’s sort of what happened in 2005, but by the time we get to Chibnall it’s not even paying attention to the last ten years of stuff, whilst ripping bits out of forty year old stuff rather than doing new. (However, to his credit — and I almost can’t believe he wrote it — at least Power of the Doctor was careful with Ace and Tegan enough that it didn’t overtly contradict and could even be seen to support some of the oldest other paths for those companions. Ace in particular, and her parting from the Doctor, could easily be was as supporting various of the takes over the years.)

Just needs carefulness, not an anal and fastidious attention to detail. And if they are worried, just have a couple of advisers handy. They can also help out with stuff like brand management and licensing — especially as it’s mainly the classic stuff that’s even selling merch wise.
 
It always amazes me that when we have these conversations Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith never get mentioned.

Reece Shearsmith and his costume on this series of Taskmaster

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When the first episode aired, there were a lot of comments that were posted that said Reece would be the perfect Doctor based on the costume.
 
I think "Children of Earth" compares pretty well to Andor.
Reading The Writer's Tale: The Final Chapter, which touches a little bit upon Children of Earth, I have the definite impression that CoE was a happy accident that RTD never fully understood, whereas Tony Gilroy knew exactly what he wanted to achieve with Andor. Which is why, I feel, Miracle Day floundered, because RTD was trying to recreate something he'd done by accident.
 
Man, Miracle Day was indeed shit.

I noped out after about three episodes if that. Edgelord drama, and waste of a good cast. CoE was grim, and arguably didn’t really belong in the Who universe (though I bet Eric Saward loved it…) but was decently fit into Torchwood itself.
I think I agree that CoE was an accident, and was elevated by the performances, particularly Barrowman.
It’s basically where Torchwood should have ended. There was nothing left by the time MD turned up, and it just had more money and a wasted bloated cast.
 
I kept hoping it'd be at least decent. After season 3, and without Who in his mind, I thought we'd get something unique out of RTD but not this.

I wonder if his partner's illness played a role in any way?
 
I often think more in terms of the Berman-era Star Trek set-up -- someone at the top that's the studio interface and final say (Berman), a creative producer who runs the writers room (Piller, Behr), and line producers who actually make the filming run on time (Lauritson). The Who set-up the last twenty years has been to mash the first two (studio interface, head writer) into one, and while I feel like Collinson was good at making the train move, including RTD, none of Moffat's line producers had the same ability.
Wasn't acting as the studio interface basically Julie Gardner's role?
 
Call me crazy, but instead of going to frankly some old men, maybe we need someone we’ve never heard of who can do the job, who is roughly in their forties and do have some fondness for the show.
The only reason a ‘fan’ has become necessary is because of the amount of time spent fiddling with lore or looking backwards. They can have a separate consultant for when they really *need* to do that.

If you’re just doing new stuff, moving forwards, all you really need is the basic descriptions that fit on the back of a card for recurring elements — and the good sense not to mess with things. If you’re doing an anniversary year, or you’re intent on introducing some new element, you just need some archive dude or dudette who knows their Who (and stick to TV Who, with a passing knowledge of the other stuff) to give scripts a once over. (Lucasfilm used to have that exact job. I wanted to apply for it back in.. about 2004. I doubt my Star Wars and Indy was up to snuff though.)
A simple ‘do not contradict or rewrite’ edict is all you need to keep fans mostly happy, and allow you the freedom to just make Who.

It’s sort of what happened in 2005, but by the time we get to Chibnall it’s not even paying attention to the last ten years of stuff, whilst ripping bits out of forty year old stuff rather than doing new. (However, to his credit — and I almost can’t believe he wrote it — at least Power of the Doctor was careful with Ace and Tegan enough that it didn’t overtly contradict and could even be seen to support some of the oldest other paths for those companions. Ace in particular, and her parting from the Doctor, could easily be was as supporting various of the takes over the years.)

Just needs carefulness, not an anal and fastidious attention to detail. And if they are worried, just have a couple of advisers handy. They can also help out with stuff like brand management and licensing — especially as it’s mainly the classic stuff that’s even selling merch wise.

Doctor Who is in to much of a precarious position to be taking that kind of chance. They need someone with proven experience of making a excellent product. It would be another story maybe if said young person was working on Who and eventually replaced the older experienced person when they moved on.
 
Doctor Who is in to much of a precarious position to be taking that kind of chance. They need someone with proven experience of making a excellent product. It would be another story maybe if said young person was working on Who and eventually replaced the older experienced person when they moved on.
Something something young minds, fresh ideas.
 
Something something young minds, fresh ideas.

Problem is they also come with less influence,less money and thus easier to be treated as puppets by the suits. Someone with experience with a proven track record brings more leverage to get things done the way he/she wants it done. Probably still got to compromise on some things but they still I think have more power to truly get their vision made more than some young inexperienced type might have.
 
Doctor Who is in to much of a precarious position to be taking that kind of chance. They need someone with proven experience of making a excellent product. It would be another story maybe if said young person was working on Who and eventually replaced the older experienced person when they moved on.

Proven experience of making a product is fine. I’m not saying give *me* the job. I’m just saying perhaps it doesn’t need to be someone known to the fandom. And it’s not like they’re gonna nab Will Smith now he’s off Slow Horses, or poach PWB back from Amazon. (Nor would they maybe be suited to the show)
 
Problem is they also come with less influence,less money and thus easier to be treated as puppets by the suits. Someone with experience with a proven track record brings more leverage to get things done the way he/she wants it done. Probably still got to compromise on some things but they still I think have more power to truly get their vision made more than some young inexperienced type might have.

No. The problem with this last couple of series is that someone needed to say ‘no’ to RTD. (Well, one of the problems anyway)
The last thing we need is a further push to auteur Who.
 
No. The problem with this last couple of series is that someone needed to say ‘no’ to RTD. (Well, one of the problems anyway)
The last thing we need is a further push to auteur Who.

Hard disagree. There are a million and one very well made, very well acted but utterly generic sci-fi shows out there. One of Who's strengths, especially in the modern era, is to offer something a little different. Now sometimes that difference puts people off, I absolutely get that, and it is a balancing act, but one thing you can never call Who (except for some of the Chibnall era) is bland.

Better to reach for the moon and hit the stars than reach for some kind of analytical perfection, this ain't A.N. Other algorithm driven Netflix show that'll be forgotten next week.

So for my money bring on the next auteur!
 
I'm wondering when they're going to shoot the episode though. Too soon and you land in the position of either having to shoot two endings or go back and reshoot the ending later.

I'm guessing nothing's like to happen before work is finished in Davies new miin-series for Channel 4 which is shooting now.
 
Hard disagree. There are a million and one very well made, very well acted but utterly generic sci-fi shows out there. One of Who's strengths, especially in the modern era, is to offer something a little different. Now sometimes that difference puts people off, I absolutely get that, and it is a balancing act, but one thing you can never call Who (except for some of the Chibnall era) is bland.

Better to reach for the moon and hit the stars than reach for some kind of analytical perfection, this ain't A.N. Other algorithm driven Netflix show that'll be forgotten next week.

So for my money bring on the next auteur!

Even Moffat had other people writing episodes.
And in 26 years of classic Who it managed fine without a One Man One Vision setup.
 
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