Any problem started when he just started turning up for work in his own clothes…
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Any problem started when he just started turning up for work in his own clothes…
Most of Capaldi's own outfits ARE Doctorish, though, because he's a complete nerd.
That was fifty percent of the joke. The other fifty is that the Paul Smith jumper was his (they modded a hoodie into it I think later)
Ah, gotcha!
With a killer cast like that (and involves a submarine!), I clearly need to watch that series! Holy crap!
That isn't what he did, anymore than that's what Tom Baker or Jon Pertwee did.
Pertwee's original get-up was pulled out of his own wardrobe. I believe it belonged to his dad or grandad did it not?
This one:
It might be one of those embellished Pertwee legends, but at the time Pertwee did dress like his Doctor anyway.
Baker in the late seventies can often be seen posing with Lalla, smoking a fag with a pint or doing an interview while basically wearing his Season 16-17 outfit minus the scarf.
See here:
And here:
Put a scarf on either of those two outfits and you're not a million miles away from a 4th Doctor outfit. I know not exactly, but Tom did dress like his Doctor. In Season 18 he starts with those funny little shoes, but he had a tantrum, threw them out and brought his own buccaneer boots from home IIRC.
Of all the classic era Doctors, those two did dress like their characters publicly and not just when promoting the show. In the case of both, I think they played the role for too long and the line blurred in their heads about where their characters ended and where they began.
Also, as I recall, McCoy wore his own hat:
This one:
It might be one of those embellished Pertwee legends, but at the time Pertwee did dress like his Doctor anyway.
Baker in the late seventies can often be seen posing with Lalla, smoking a fag with a pint or doing an interview while basically wearing his Season 16-17 outfit minus the scarf.
See here:
And here:
Put a scarf on either of those two outfits and you're not a million miles away from a 4th Doctor outfit. I know not exactly, but Tom did dress like his Doctor. In Season 18 he starts with those funny little shoes, but he had a tantrum, threw them out and brought his own buccaneer boots from home IIRC.
Of all the classic era Doctors, those two did dress like their characters publicly and not just when promoting the show. In the case of both, I think they played the role for too long and the line blurred in their heads about where their characters ended and where they began.
Also, as I recall, McCoy wore his own hat:
Apropos of nothing, I do think it's an interesting observation that Capaldi's various outfits varied in Spectrum through the Doctors he grew up with. So there's the austere look (Hartnell), his dishevelled efforts (Troughton) and the fancy (Pertwee).
I think that's very clever and I think that must have been a very conscious choice on the part of Capaldi. When Series 9 geared up and he really started pushing the grungy look, Troughton pants came back in full force too.
Series 8-10 is a really clever and very rewatchable take on Doctor Who and I really need to rewatch it. I need to watch some Doctor Who. It's been ages. I think the last time I watched Classic Who was The Invisible Enemy a few years back and in the case of new stuff, Jodie's finale after it aired. In either case, not good notes to end on.
I think that's very clever and I think that must have been a very conscious choice on the part of Capaldi. When Series 9 geared up and he really started pushing the grungy look, Troughton pants came back in full force too.
Series 8-10 is a really clever and very rewatchable take on Doctor Who and I really need to rewatch it. I need to watch some Doctor Who. It's been ages. I think the last time I watched Classic Who was The Invisible Enemy a few years back and in the case of new stuff, Jodie's finale after it aired. In either case, not good notes to end on.
Pertwee's original get-up was pulled out of his own wardrobe. I believe it belonged to his dad or grandad did it not?
This one:
It might be one of those embellished Pertwee legends, but at the time Pertwee did dress like his Doctor anyway.
Baker in the late seventies can often be seen posing with Lalla, smoking a fag with a pint or doing an interview while basically wearing his Season 16-17 outfit minus the scarf.
See here:
And here:
Put a scarf on either of those two outfits and you're not a million miles away from a 4th Doctor outfit. I know not exactly, but Tom did dress like his Doctor. In Season 18 he starts with those funny little shoes, but he had a tantrum, threw them out and brought his own buccaneer boots from home IIRC.
Of all the classic era Doctors, those two did dress like their characters publicly and not just when promoting the show. In the case of both, I think they played the role for too long and the line blurred in their heads about where their characters ended and where they began.
Also, as I recall, McCoy wore his own hat:
Yup. For the most part. Though I think Sylv’s hat was changed from the actual one he wore in an interview, but he definitely took it with him in 89.
The other two it’s sometimes harder to say if they didn’t just keep the uniform on after work as it were. Tom was fastidious about never being seen smoking and drinking by kids for example, and the seventies was a fashion era where traditional Doctorish clothing was either still worn by some, or not a million miles off the fashion at the time anyway. These days not so much, but not completely impossible,
Tennant would have blended right in for the most part in the city, if it wasn’t for odd colour choices and the converse (again in relatively unusual colours)
And that’s the thing, it’s usually an outfit that needs a second glance on earth, now, but stands out even more in other places.
Because fundamentally, whilst only a little incongruous on the streets (not counting in Camden, which traditionally looks like an inter dimensional gateway on a Sunday, though I hear it’s been cleaned up) one of the reasons that slightly anachronistic, early 20th Century look works, is because it’s often in contrast to all the *other* places the Doctor ends up.
Same is true of the companions to an extent at times. Think Ace the ‘Noble Savage’ or Leela (actual savage… possibly only to upholstery depending on budget) or even Rose in Tooth and Claw or when wearing a flag in WW2.
These new shots of Ncuti… probably wouldn’t get a second glance frankly.
There’s plenty of off duty shots of the exact Doctors you mention here in more usual street clothes though, where they aren’t dressing the part still. Sylv often seems to go for hats mind you.
I wasn’t big on the Capaldi era at times, but I absolutely agree. Especially when he tried on an actual Pertwee jacket they left in the trailer for him. (Did that make it to screen?)
I think he is precisely the kind of person who *knew* he was lore wise ‘the new first doctor’ and they ran with that early days remix right up to the very end. Even the sunglasses are a bit of a Troughton callback.
Final evidence nail in the coffin. Capaldi most likely saw The Underwater Menace as a kid.
I'd noted he shifts through outfits, but I'd never really twigged why until today.
Regards, Ncuti:
I've been spoiler-free for the best part of a year and I've only just been binging myself on all the shooting photos, but... Well, I do have to say, what on Earth are they playing at with regards to Ncuti's outfit?
Will one of 15's defining characteristics be that he just loves to wear wildly different stuff and is always period appropriate...
It is a bit weird.
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One odd thing I recall about Tennant's original suit is that they found several pairs of trousers but there was no jacket, so they made jackets out of the trouser material, thus making the jacket a little flimsier than a suit jacket normally would be.
I always categorised the modern Doctor's looks thusly
Eccleston- U-Boat Captain
Tennant - Spiv/70's copper if you're feeling charitable
Smith- Absent minded 1950s professor (I didn't like the purple suit he wore later on, it felt wrong for the character)
War Doctor- man thinking of joining the German navy...
Capaldi - stage magician/street magician
Whittaker- CBEEBIEs presenter/newly qualified art teacher if you're being charitable
Martin- Edwardian adventurer with a lovely splash of African colour in the shirt (I'm always amazed at how cool her outfit was when it likely had the least time put into its design)
Fourteen- 10th Doctor cosplay
Ncuti- too early to say really. Fashionista? Or maybe chameleon as he seems to be the first Doctor going out of his way to blend in with the era he's visiting (if by blending in you mean standing out by looking cool as fuck) Actually even taking his official outfit it's hard to pin down a specific vibe. I think he's just going to have to go down as Cool
Obviously I don't want to get into that 'who should play 16' malarkey, but whoever it is is likely going to have to be an absolute scruff who never changes their outfit
I always categorised the modern Doctor's looks thusly
Eccleston- U-Boat Captain
Tennant - Spiv/70's copper if you're feeling charitable
Smith- Absent minded 1950s professor (I didn't like the purple suit he wore later on, it felt wrong for the character)
War Doctor- man thinking of joining the German navy...
Capaldi - stage magician/street magician
Whittaker- CBEEBIEs presenter/newly qualified art teacher if you're being charitable
Martin- Edwardian adventurer with a lovely splash of African colour in the shirt (I'm always amazed at how cool her outfit was when it likely had the least time put into its design)
Fourteen- 10th Doctor cosplay
Ncuti- too early to say really. Fashionista? Or maybe chameleon as he seems to be the first Doctor going out of his way to blend in with the era he's visiting (if by blending in you mean standing out by looking cool as fuck) Actually even taking his official outfit it's hard to pin down a specific vibe. I think he's just going to have to go down as Cool
Obviously I don't want to get into that 'who should play 16' malarkey, but whoever it is is likely going to have to be an absolute scruff who never changes their outfit
It is, but only in context of the show. What's really weird if you think about it is that a character whose time machine contains a vast wardrobe of clothes from across time and space would choose to wear the same anachronistic outfit week in week out, I mean that's weird.
So far, and chime in if I'm missing anything, we have:
official outfit
17th/18th century
60s
Shaft/Lenny Henry Doctor
rocker
Series 14 will have eight episodes (though not sure if it's eight plus Xmas or eight including Xmas?) At the moment this doesn't suggest he'll have a different outfit in every episode, and do we even know if several outfits might feature in a single episode? But as it stands there may be half the season with him wearing something else. If he's in the official outfit for the other half of the season (and bearing in mind he might be wearing his official outfit even in the other eps, either at the start and/or the end.) then I think that's still very obviously his official look.
It’s always a riff on those science guys who wear variations on a theme so they never have to think about what to wear. And an element of ‘this guys changes his face every once in a while, so maybe he sticks with a certain look to ground himself’. I always think of it like the Tardis, that itself regenerates and changes subtly, but *likes* being the blue box.
Is which outfit that we've seen, exactly?
I think it was implied it was the official photo with the plaid suit with the orange cleavage top. But then they went seventies cop show…
Sorry to drag people away from over obsessing on trivia but it looks (if I'm reading this correctly) like we have a new (BAFTA winning) companion.
https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/bafta-award-winner-lenny-rush-joins-doctor-who
They're doing some more public shooting tomorrow so I assume he'll be on set.
https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/bafta-award-winner-lenny-rush-joins-doctor-who
They're doing some more public shooting tomorrow so I assume he'll be on set.
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God, no matter how many assholes I block on Twitter there's always more. What has to be wrong in your head to think it's acceptable to hurl abuse at a 14 year old boy for the "crime" of not having a so-called normal body?
I just got the book out of the library.
With Ten, they were going for a gangly, slightly disheveled but otherwise well dressed look; in no small part due to David begging to wear a suit and tie, and insisting on his own sneakers.
This is absolutely adorable:
