pookha said:
i wish they had addressed it because it could have been solved with something as simple that the parents of koss for their own reasons didnt tell koss the truth.
Except that whole pariah thing.
you know if you are going to attack the show it helps to check what was said..
Who's attacking? Can't anyone have the least little criticism about the show without being accused of attacking it or bashing it? So I forgot one. It seems suspect to me, but then it is Trek science.
you forget that they could still control the direction ect just not stop.
why not go in the direction of columbia is coming from.
it is so much common sense.
But we still saw Columbia only just leaving Earth in
Divergence. I don't know about you, but I was left with the impression that Enterprise was a long way from home and they didn't have very much time.
because there were situations that made it possible.
Not the way I saw it. It felt a lot more like a weak excuse to get some angst for a while until they could get Trip back on the ship.
because crazed meglomanics often dont think like normal people.
they also made sure that elizabeth showed primary vulcan traits.
to their twisted thinking this would scare people into thinking that humanity would disappear as a species if they intermixed.
and well considering his illness and what he was taking for treatment paxton could have had his own twisted reasons.
Like I said, it made no sense, they created the very thing they said they feared, and killing an infant would gain them no sympathy.
that section of mars was away from earth the weapon came out on the far side away from mars or both.
I've heard a lot of theories, but its still a plot hole, just like the lack of a fleet to defend Earth when they
knew (or were supposed to) that there was going to be another attack.
because no other ship could have kept up with them.
Getting there quicker doesn't do much good if one doesn't have the firepower to do anything about it.
Azati Prime underlined that point rather well. Besides, as long as Enterprise wandered around before they even found anything, they kind of lost that speed advantage. Even if the other ships couldn't do warp 5, then they'd just have to make due with whatever the slowest ship could do. Or better yet, while they were upgrading Enterprise's weaponry, they could have been upgrading the engines and weaponry of some more ships so that speed gap wouldn't be so bad.
but it is interesting when people go after on stuff that is either directly addresed or a plausiable explanation is given in the story.
Yes, fans can have fun explaining things away, putting a lot more thought into the show than the people who made it bothered to. I've done it myself, and it
can be fun, but I still point out the faults because the truth is, it frustrates me that someone like me or you, who is most definitely not getting paid to do so, can come up with these explanations to fix all these faults when someone who was getting paid to do so couldn't or wouldn't.
Nerys Myk said:
The point is we've seen Vulcans without the "classic" look before. So its not unique. I dont recall a torrent of complaints after STII was released. Even Vulcan eye brows might show a little IDIC.
I'd expect as much variety among them as among humans, but not that much. Might as well lose the ears while you're at it.
By "unthought of" I was refering to certian creative directions that did not follow the usual fan expectations. Whicn tend to follow the fanon ingrained by years misremembered or totally made up factoids passed from fan to fan.
Such as? Sounds as much an opinion as anything else I've posted here.
I assume you are refering to certian design elements used, because the ship is pretty primative when compared to the 1707 or the 1701-D.
Not really. It looks too much like an Akira class with reversed pylons and TOS nacelles. I'll admit that the design has grown on me, but it's still an Akira class with a little tweaking here and there.
There were quite a few TOS "easter eggs" in the design.
You mean the TOS style nacelles and the dome on the bottom? That'd be about it, at least on the exterior.
Who to say what a ship woulsd look like 100 years prior to TOS any way?
Anyone who's seen what the Akira class of the late 24th Century looks like, which is more a matter of what it
shouldn't have looked like.
May the ship designers in the TNG era went retro and not futuristic.
I've heard that one before, but the Constellation of today bears very little resemblance to the one sailing the oceans 200 years ago, nor does the F-22 look much like the fighters of WWI less than 100 years ago.
Of course both the NX-01 and the Akira are based on an old 20th Century airplane design anyway.
The twin hulls bear a little resemblance to the P-38's twin tails because of the objects on top of them, which resemble the WWII fighter's superchargers, but that is the only resemblance. The similarities between the Akira and the NX-01 are far more numerous.
Too soon by who's reckoning? Picard says "centuries", as in more than one. Which fits with it happening 200 years before TNG. That other "date", allegedly from "Day of the Dove", is a myth. As distasters go it might have looked small when it happened, but it did set the course for human/Federation relationships with the Klingons for decades to come. One incident after another making a bad situation worse. So in retrospect it would be deemed a disaster.
Not really. In its TNG context, it made a very strong case for the existence of the Prime Directive in one of the few episodes where it actually made sense. It involved simply charging in and revealing themselves to less developed aliens. What about that situation bears any resemblance to what happened in
Broken Bow.
Both the Ferengi and Borg episodes were well handled.
I beg to differ.
You might not like how they skirted the name issue, but it worked to perserve continuity.
Through the cop-out of not mentioning the names.
TOS got its props in ENT.
In Season 4, but that was about it, and S4 hasn't aged all that well either.
And making the show more like TOS would not make it a better prequel.
It wouldn't have had to be made like TOS, it just should've acknowledged its existence better and fit into what had been established as its history, or at least reconciled it as best as could be done. And before you say that it did, we'll just have to disagree on that point.
