Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID42?)

[bigdaddy]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

There's still plenty of story to be told in the ID4 universe.

All we saw at the end of the movie was the American forces crippling the mothership and downing a single city-ship. There's no indication that the mothership was destroyed as far as I can remember (though it's been a while) as I don't see a single small tactical nuke taking out something a quarter the size of the moon.

You just say there is no indication that you remember that the mothership got destroyed and then say you don't think one nuke could do it. Could you make up your mind?

The movie isn't based on facts, it's based on entertainment, they gave the ship a virus and then the one little nuke blew the ship to hell.

 

[QuasarVM]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

Based on the stupidity of that prop plane pilot inexplicably flying a fighter jet (Randy Quaid was highly irritating in this movie -- the whole "I'mmm baaack!" thing was toopid!) into one of the ships and the whole computer virus thing...there should be no sequel.

ID4 was like one of the first movies to really insult the audience's intelligence.

It was, like, the beginning of the "dumbing down of Hollywood".

Oh, and Harvey Fierstone got on my nerves with that frog voice of his.

No sequel. So let it be written...so let it be done.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

I liked ID4, flaws and all. It was a big dumb entertaining popcorn movie, did what it said on the box. Goldblum reprised his Malcolm from Jurassic Park, Will Smith did his Will Smith schtick. And of course, you had the opening sequence of V but with an infinitely bigger budget and you had the spectacular sight of all those landmarks being blown to smithereens (admittedly, in a post-9/11 world, those scenes are slightly less entertaining ...). It also had one of the best trailers and promotional machines ever.

But .... a sequel?

Nah, it was a one-off. If all the buildings, capitals and landmarks were blown to bits in the first movie, what do they do for a sequel? Blow up The Millennium Eye? Doesn't have quite the same ring to it ...

It was a good movie but I always had the impression that the tale was told, that it wasn't meant to be an ongoing story. If it was any good, I suppose I'd go see a sequel, but I don't think the world's a worse place for it not being made.

By the way, if Pullman's President was meant to be a sort of Clinton lookalike & age-alike, then maybe it would make sense to have Will as the President this time round ...

 

[Jax]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

I don't see a single small tactical nuke taking out something a quarter the size of the moon.

When it comes to Nukes there is no such thing as small and not too mention am sure the Moon is a lot thicker than their hull so blowing it up from the inside out causes shitload of damage. Not too mention am sure whatever power source they use probably doesn't react well to a tactical nuke exploding in its face so I would hazard a guess the mothership is toast.

ID4 needs no sequel.

 

[FordSVT]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

ID4 was like one of the first movies to really insult the audience's intelligence.

It was, like, the beginning of the "dumbing down of Hollywood".

Yeah right.... did you start watching movies in 1996?

 

[Meredith]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

I like the idea of a resource starved earth (due to the invasion by aliens) invading some other alien planet the same way they invaded us, and us getting our asses handed back to us....

 

[Smiley]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

Independence Day is a spectacular movie with a happy, closed ending. It has no need for a sequel.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

I like the idea of a resource starved earth (due to the invasion by aliens) invading some other alien planet the same way they invaded us, and us getting our asses handed back to us....

Humanity *already* got its ass kicked in the first movie. They don't need another dose of that.

Besides, I got the impression that the entire alien species was involved in the first movie (their homeworld had been abandoned because they depleted its resources). Destroying their mothership wiped them all out.

 

[Checkmate]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

I don't see a single small tactical nuke taking out something a quarter the size of the moon.

When it comes to Nukes there is no such thing as small...

Yeah there is.

...and not too mention am sure the Moon is a lot thicker than their hull so blowing it up from the inside out causes shitload of damage.

The mothership had one-fourth the mass of the moon. I believe the underside was shown to have room for at least 80 city-sized ships. It's amazing how you people can overestimate how powerful a nuclear bomb is (nevermind a tactical-sized nuke which is what we saw loaded onto the fighter) yet, in the same breath, completely underestimate the size of something like the alien's mothership.

 

[Smiley]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

A proton torpedo destroyed the Death Star. ID4 is just using the same story philosophy.

 

[bigdaddy]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

The nuke might not have been "small", it looked like a fine nuke to me.

Anyways who knows what bombs might have been left on the ship to kill the last few humans, or the weapons or the power mass.

Plus once again, it's a sci-fi movie! Who cares?! However if you ever watched the movie the ship is clearly blown up! They show it in bits a few times in the movie!

 

[RoJoHen]

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Independence Day is a spectacular movie with a happy, closed ending. It has no need for a sequel.

I agree. There is nowhere to go from where it left off.

I could see a prequel MAYBE working, something to do with the initial crash at Roswell. But if you're going to do that, you might as well just make a separate Roswell movie outside of ID4.

 

[The Comedian]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

Independence Day is a spectacular movie with a happy, closed ending. It has no need for a sequel.

I agree. There is nowhere to go from where it left off.

I could see a prequel MAYBE working, something to do with the initial crash at Roswell. But if you're going to do that, you might as well just make a separate Roswell movie outside of ID4.

Has anyone read "ID4: War in the Desert"?

That one was about the adventures of the Brit/Arab/Israeli pilots we saw briefly in the movie. Apparently just knocking down the city ships was just the start; the surviving aliens came boiling out, really dangerous and extremely ticked off...

That would be a good starting point. You saw how dangerous just one of those critters could be; imagine how nasty thousands of them would be, with no place to go...

 

[The Wormhole]

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Besides, I got the impression that the entire alien species was involved in the first movie (their homeworld had been abandoned because they depleted its resources). Destroying their mothership wiped them all out.

Indeed, while the President is telepathically linked with the alien, he mentions that their entire race is in on the invasion.

 

[bigdaddy]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

That would be a good starting point. You saw how dangerous just one of those critters could be; imagine how nasty thousands of them would be, with no place to go...

Too late, it's 15 years later the actors have aged 15 years.

 

[MNM]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

The mothership had one-fourth the mass of the moon. I believe the underside was shown to have room for at least 80 city-sized ships. It's amazing how you people can overestimate how powerful a nuclear bomb is (nevermind a tactical-sized nuke which is what we saw loaded onto the fighter) yet, in the same breath, completely underestimate the size of something like the alien's mothership.

The Mothership went "boom" in that huge badass explosion at the end as Will Smith and the other guy high tailed it out of there. The nuke worked.

 

[Jax]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

The mothership had one-fourth the mass of the moon. I believe the underside was shown to have room for at least 80 city-sized ships. It's amazing how you people can overestimate how powerful a nuclear bomb is (nevermind a tactical-sized nuke which is what we saw loaded onto the fighter) yet, in the same breath, completely underestimate the size of something like the alien's mothership.

The Mothership went "boom" in that huge badass explosion at the end as Will Smith and the other guy high tailed it out of there. The nuke worked.

I never liked the Mass line because am sure they knew the size but not the actual mass. I will say again whatever power source they use probably made the explosion big, hell for all we know they used Nuclear power and besides end of day onscreen evidence proves the mothership went KABOOM

 

[Samurai8472]

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as I don't see a single small tactical nuke taking out something a quarter the size of the moon.

It was a nuke stuffed within a nuke and filled with gravy.

 

[John Picard]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

Based on the stupidity of that prop plane pilot inexplicably flying a fighter jet (Randy Quaid was highly irritating in this movie -- the whole "I'mmm baaack!" thing was toopid!) into one of the ships and the whole computer virus thing...there should be no sequel.

Um, his character flew jets in Vietnam, so there was no "jump" from a crop duster to a jet. He just had to get acquainted with the changes since the War.

ID4 was like one of the first movies to really insult the audience's intelligence.

It was, like, the beginning of the "dumbing down of Hollywood".

Oh, and Harvey Fierstone got on my nerves with that frog voice of his.

No sequel. So let it be written...so let it be done.

I agree that a sequel would be absolutely craptacular.

 

[Dream]

Re: Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin want to make Independence Day 2 (ID4

The next alien invasion will have to happen without Will Smith

"Independence Day 2," which was recently set for a July 3, 2015 release date by 20th Century Fox, will not feature the original film's above the marquee star, director Roland Emmerich confirmed to the Daily News.

"Will Smith can not come back because he's too expensive, but he'd also be too much of a marquee name," said Emmerich, while promoting his latest film, "White House Down." "It would be too much.

https://twitter.com/kristapley/status/349298827968253954

@ErikDavis
Roland Emmerich confirmed to me on stage tonight that Jeff Goldblum & Bill Pullman are onboard for INDEPENDENCE DAY 2
6/24/13 3:49 PM